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reply posted Mar-12-2013 “There were a number of inquiries regarding authenticity of our products. It has been a sudden increase since we were starting to sell headphones and accessories online 7 years ago. I believe it is caused by this wrong accusation here illustrating heavily biased judgment and not trying to seek for official check. So inevitably I have to point out the critical points here to demonstrate the facts and hope people here will think and have their own conclusion.
We have been selling only genuine and 100% brand new items for 7 years online. Audiophiles like people on head-fi.org have had a lot of guys buying from us and very happy about our products and services. They are a bunch of people buying hundreds of dollars headphones a few times a year, so they all know what they are buying. Search our name and you will know.
After having this incidence, we passed the picture this customer provided to the Authorized Distributor in Hong Kong to question why the cable in the US are not the same. For those with no idea what an Authorized Distributor is, they are the representative of a manufacturer in a region, in this case Ultimate Ears. They appoint authorized dealers and sell official products in volumes to dealers selling to customers. After checking, their answer to us is “this is a new version”.
So look at the picture comparison, from the top, there is a retail sealed packaging versus a plastic zip bag. As explained carefully, the Vi cable is a sellable product in this region, not a parts, so a proper packaging and a bar code is needed. We can also see the Authenticity label with distributor’s name and contact number for customers to check for authenticity. They can call the number to confirm when in doubt. It also serves as warranty contact for any problem when needed.
Then the plastic tube wrapping on the connectors. They are merely the protective tubes for the pins on the cable to avoid damages when brand new. They are not part of the product. They are like the protective films on new LCD screens that you have to remove to use when received. Secondly there are plastic wrapping on the ear hook positions on the new version to provide better hook shapes on the ears. On the old version, you cannot find them.
On the mic control, you can see there are anti-bend protective from the two connection points with the cable. This measure can help to prevent too much twist and break the wire inside. The same measure has been provided on the Y-connector as well.
So looking at so many improvements on the new or Asia version, you might ask if it is a fake, why one will add so many quality assurance features in but not just do a direct copy in a plastic bag? Why would an authenticity sticker with contact phone number on it for everyone to check and for warranty? Why would a dealer ask the customer to send to manufacturer or contact them to check the distributor identity? Why not just offer a simple refund if they are selling fake items knowing that they are on reseller rating?
Also on the order questions, I firstly do not have a clue what is going on? This customer placed an order but failed the first paying process, so the first order has been canceled automatically by Paypal. The second order came through and completed. So there are two orders in the history list. And then on the completed order, there are there clickable links “Invoice” “Shipment” and “Refund” for customer to use. So I was not sure what the question was. But anyone paying better attention will understand immediately they are just part of the customer-end system. Of course unless one is heavily biased and everything is a scam for him.
At the end the Paypal mistake.
After the case is closed and favored to the Buyer in such a quick timeframe, I immediately called up our Account Manager in Paypal to question if a proper procedure has been conducted. Did a formal report by authorized personnel to confirm the authenticity of the product has been done? In the later afternoon, he called back and told me that the operative agent made a mistake clicking on a wrong button and issued refund to the buyer. Paypal is willing to reimburse the money for their mistake.
I told him on the phone that frankly $30 is not what we wish for to allow the dispute to escalate to a claim; it is justice and fairness that we entrusted Paypal to help to protect us. Buyer should go by the procedure to seek for professional report to confirm authenticity of a product if in doubt but not simply draw some diagrams based on comparing two versions of items and highlight the discrepancy which any high school student can achieve without problem. It will only cost the buyer to call or buy a stamp to send the product to manufacturer to check and that will be it.
We have been asking buyer to conduct formal confirmation in emails and in Paypal communications but have been refused to do so.
The captured email reply from Paypal has been attached for reference.
http://www.accessoryjack.com/images/PP-Case-01.jpg”
reply posted Oct-26-2012 “Dear Crez,
We understand your frustration and we have been trying very hard to solve the situation for you. For a defective on arrival product, we will offer a new replacement with reimbursement for the shipping fee involved. That was clearly explained to you in our email communication.
We tend to believe the claims from customers but we also will conduct tests for the symptoms before we take them back to distributor for warranty or replacement. Or else we will lose creditability of not verifying before claim as we will face the same check from distributor’s engineers.
In your case of claiming the right ear side is losing connection, I have given it a test both with and without the extension cord to make sure I can address the failure. But after 10 minutes of trying, I still found a pair of perfectly good sounding Polk Audio earphones. Since we tend to believe our customer’s claim, I asked two other colleagues to try to test it in motion and see if we can address your issue. That is why I emailed you to ask if there are any particular movements that will trigger the issue but you simply keep on telling us how not satisfy with everything the earphone is.
After around 30 minutes of testing from our two other staff, we still cannot find the problem. But we will not put our judgment simply by testing in house. So we passed it to distributor and telling them with some movement of jogging, the right ear will have no sound coming out. However, we received a call on the next day that the distributor cannot address any issue from the earphones and they refused to give us a new replacement.
So we are sort of stuck there because we understand you are not very satisfied with the earphones and then if we are going to tell you distributor refused to do anything, you will be very disappointed. So we used a lot of connection from the sales guy and also calling them to persuade them at least give us a new box that we can help our customer in case there is really something wrong with the cable that we cannot test out.
After a few days of struggling and that is why I cannot reply your two emails, they agreed to give us a new box if we can supply them the carrying pouch that is supposed to be in the package. Or they will open the box and take back the pouch. We also understand that you may forgot to ship us back the pouch and asking you to ship us the pouch will result in another two or three essay long email explaining why you would not like to do it. We finally managed to get a sealed completely new retail box back from Polk Audio distributor. And they reminded us that we still own them the pouch.
We considered that sending you a new unopened box is the best for you as there will be a lot more options for you to consider. And we have been trying a lot of ways to get the best possible, but may not be perfect, solution for your situation.
So please don’t suggest that we did not try hard and simply seek for the easiest way to care for our customers. Since we do not have a we-don’t-like-it-and-refund law in this part of the world, distributor will not take back anything opened. And that is why we can keep a reasonably low price as we do not need to waste money and resources on refurbishing products. That indeed benefits everyone if we are responsible on purchases we have made.
Johnny
AccessoryJack”
"Shipped my headphone 1 day after my purchase and it's really well packed (lots of bubble plastic to protect it)"