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reply posted Mar-12-2013 “There were a number of inquiries regarding authenticity of our products. It has been a sudden increase since we were starting to sell headphones and accessories online 7 years ago. I believe it is caused by this wrong accusation here illustrating heavily biased judgment and not trying to seek for official check. So inevitably I have to point out the critical points here to demonstrate the facts and hope people here will think and have their own conclusion.
We have been selling only genuine and 100% brand new items for 7 years online. Audiophiles like people on head-fi.org have had a lot of guys buying from us and very happy about our products and services. They are a bunch of people buying hundreds of dollars headphones a few times a year, so they all know what they are buying. Search our name and you will know.
After having this incidence, we passed the picture this customer provided to the Authorized Distributor in Hong Kong to question why the cable in the US are not the same. For those with no idea what an Authorized Distributor is, they are the representative of a manufacturer in a region, in this case Ultimate Ears. They appoint authorized dealers and sell official products in volumes to dealers selling to customers. After checking, their answer to us is “this is a new version”.
So look at the picture comparison, from the top, there is a retail sealed packaging versus a plastic zip bag. As explained carefully, the Vi cable is a sellable product in this region, not a parts, so a proper packaging and a bar code is needed. We can also see the Authenticity label with distributor’s name and contact number for customers to check for authenticity. They can call the number to confirm when in doubt. It also serves as warranty contact for any problem when needed.
Then the plastic tube wrapping on the connectors. They are merely the protective tubes for the pins on the cable to avoid damages when brand new. They are not part of the product. They are like the protective films on new LCD screens that you have to remove to use when received. Secondly there are plastic wrapping on the ear hook positions on the new version to provide better hook shapes on the ears. On the old version, you cannot find them.
On the mic control, you can see there are anti-bend protective from the two connection points with the cable. This measure can help to prevent too much twist and break the wire inside. The same measure has been provided on the Y-connector as well.
So looking at so many improvements on the new or Asia version, you might ask if it is a fake, why one will add so many quality assurance features in but not just do a direct copy in a plastic bag? Why would an authenticity sticker with contact phone number on it for everyone to check and for warranty? Why would a dealer ask the customer to send to manufacturer or contact them to check the distributor identity? Why not just offer a simple refund if they are selling fake items knowing that they are on reseller rating?
Also on the order questions, I firstly do not have a clue what is going on? This customer placed an order but failed the first paying process, so the first order has been canceled automatically by Paypal. The second order came through and completed. So there are two orders in the history list. And then on the completed order, there are there clickable links “Invoice” “Shipment” and “Refund” for customer to use. So I was not sure what the question was. But anyone paying better attention will understand immediately they are just part of the customer-end system. Of course unless one is heavily biased and everything is a scam for him.
At the end the Paypal mistake.
After the case is closed and favored to the Buyer in such a quick timeframe, I immediately called up our Account Manager in Paypal to question if a proper procedure has been conducted. Did a formal report by authorized personnel to confirm the authenticity of the product has been done? In the later afternoon, he called back and told me that the operative agent made a mistake clicking on a wrong button and issued refund to the buyer. Paypal is willing to reimburse the money for their mistake.
I told him on the phone that frankly $30 is not what we wish for to allow the dispute to escalate to a claim; it is justice and fairness that we entrusted Paypal to help to protect us. Buyer should go by the procedure to seek for professional report to confirm authenticity of a product if in doubt but not simply draw some diagrams based on comparing two versions of items and highlight the discrepancy which any high school student can achieve without problem. It will only cost the buyer to call or buy a stamp to send the product to manufacturer to check and that will be it.
We have been asking buyer to conduct formal confirmation in emails and in Paypal communications but have been refused to do so.
The captured email reply from Paypal has been attached for reference.
http://www.accessoryjack.com/images/PP-Case-01.jpg”
"I recently ordered a pair of Sennheiser HD600 headphones and a FiiO Montblanc e12 portable amp. The HD600s were $90 off MSRP, and shipped ultra-fast to South Korea. Shipped Wednesday morning from Hong Kong, got here Thursday afternoon. Unbelievable. Quality stuff, no disappointment. "