Sapphire Radeon 9800 Non-Pro 128MB - $199

[camaro]

Here is a pic and specs.
http://www.pcwonderinc.com/atirad98sap3.html

Comes with Samsung 3.3ns memory. I had it for a few months. It's been working great. I don't have the original box anymore. Unfortunately I need some extra money so the card has to go.

I think $199 is a fair price.

[TheHardDriveMan]

I take back my offer, my geforce 4 outperforms the 9800 non pro even with softmod. I'll save up for pro model.

[FlyingHamster]

uhhh, that np will outperform your gf4 any day buddy. and when u overclock past Pro speed.. your gf4 will be no where in site. after all.. the ONLY diff between the 9800pro and non pro are speeds.

[TheHardDriveMan]

The 9800 non-pro uses 4 pipelines, and even with a softmod gets 2000 less 3dmark01se points than my geforce 4 at stock settings. The non-pro is nothing compared to the pro, even when overclocked. Going past the 9800 pro clock settings doesn't make it perform like a pro. It's performs horrible in games, I've read up on this card. It's basically a 9600 pro.

You guys need to move this discussion to PM. Neither of your comments has anything to do with camaro trying to sell his video card. This is a warning, don't make me get MEAN.

[camaro]

Originally posted by TheHardDriveMan
The 9800 non-pro uses 4 pipelines, and even with a softmod gets 2000 less 3dmark01se points than my geforce 4 at stock settings. The non-pro is nothing compared to the pro, even when overclocked. Going past the 9800 pro clock settings doesn't make it perform like a pro. It's performs horrible in games, I've read up on this card. It's basically a 9600 pro.

Radeon 9800 Pro ATI R350 DX 9 380 680 256-bit 8x1
Radeon 9800 ATI R350 DX 9 325 580 256-bit 8x1

The only difference between the pro and non-pro is the clock speed.

It has 8 not 4 pipelines. Just like the pro.

[IncuPIRATE]

Originally posted by TheHardDriveMan
The 9800 non-pro uses 4 pipelines, and even with a softmod gets 2000 less 3dmark01se points than my geforce 4 at stock settings. The non-pro is nothing compared to the pro, even when overclocked. Going past the 9800 pro clock settings doesn't make it perform like a pro. It's performs horrible in games, I've read up on this card. It's basically a 9600 pro.

You are thinking of the 9800 SE boards. He's selling a 9800 non pro. Big difference, the 9800 non pro runs very well in games, and scores just above 9700 Pro ratings.

[mike_sanfil]

$199 is a bit high, you can get a 9800pro from new egg for about $212.

[FlyingHamster]

bump for a nice card

[Sweeper]

I'll bump for a nice card ( I have the ATI version)