i want to build a cable isp

[natbeys]

i want to build a cable isp.
what r the basic things needed to build a cable isp.
the customers may vary around 1000 to 2500.
i want to provide this service upto 20kms.
my budget would be 10000-15000 us$.
please help me choosing the right hardware.
and also tell me, is server required as i am builiding the cable isp with dish antenna / sattelite.if yes what kind of server it would be?

[Mickwish]

You are building an internet serveice provider service, right? To be the place users dial into (or connect to in the case of cable modems) to connect to the internet?

A bit beyond my scope, but their are a few here who work for large ISP's who would have an idea what hardware is required. The main thing would be a backbone for users to cennt to that allowed enough people to connect at once. And the server(s) (probably need more than one for 2500 users I think) would need to be able to respond quickly to any requests from the users.

So, you are on-selling from a satelitte connection, are you? More details on how you will connect to the internet, and how users would connect to you, would be helpful.

Hope there is some here who can help you.

Cheers
Mick

[RicheemxX]

mulitple T-1 or t-3 lines dish sat. won't be fast enough or efficent enough to handle the user bandwith your looking at unless your looking into something I'm unaware of

a few servers, some routers ports and a few KVM switche switch backups

back-up power supplies {UPS}and back-up computers to back-up all your data a couple good firewalls lots of good server software

not to mention storage solutions for your customers and their data/webpages/email what not so a few raid arrays or one big one with a cap on customer storage

I doubt 10-15k would be enough capital to start you off. especially given the fact you'd have to install cable lines to your users because as far as I know thats the only way cable ISP's can reach new users, most existing infastructer isn't shared

for 10-15k you might be able to do a start-up dial-up but that might still be pushing it for 2500 customers

if I'm way off someone help me out here becuase I know I don't have all the knowledge in this type of situation

[natbeys]

thankx for the reply...
..i appreciate your knowledge and lets see if i am able to get help on google (tried.. but did'nt got the specific help.. still trying...!)
i want to offer 10/100mb connection to the customers.

[RamonGTP]

If you're going to offer 10/100 mbit bandwidth to 2500 customers, you're going to need a several strands of fiber coming into your home/office (wherever the headend is going to be at)

You do realize that even a T1 is only 1.5mbit right? And you're wanting to offer customers that is anywhere from 6x to 70x faster than that. The ladder being even more bandwidth than a T3. Then of course you have to multiply that by the amount of customers you're going to have. I don't think that would be feezable even if with a $100,000 budget.

Then of course you'd have to run cable into each of your customers home. AFIK, you wouldn't be able to use the current cabling infrastructure because I believe it's owned by the cable company.

[brandon184]

Ain't gonna happen, sister.

[whitebeard21]

$15,000 wont even buy the servers you need. you need 5 fulltime service trucksand drivers you need 5 fulltime tech support phone people you need 1 phone receptionest/cashier/dispatcher . This is just the personell to operate a minimal business.
You are looking at $ 1,000,000 - 1,500,000 to buy the cable and string it as well as put in the drops. You are going to have to pay a fee to use the right of way for your cable as well as a fee for every pole you hang it on.
Also when you apply to the puc for a franchise If it would be profitable the cable company will object and put it in now instead of waiting.

[vass0922]

I would be rather PI***D if I found out my cable provider would be using satellite as the primary carrier for my cable connection

Satellite may give a "decent" bandwidth but latency BLOWS

You have a LOT of reading up to do, and I don't think some forums will tell you all you need.

For 1000-2500 cable users at 1.5 mbps (don't even consider 10/100 its not possible for a little guy)

For example here is a quick quote I found on the net

Setup fee: $4950.
Monthly fee: $4950 per month. Local loop fee not included!
Speed: 155mbps

for 155mbps its FIVE THOUSAND a month... no cable modem subscriber will be paying more than 50 bucks or so... let alone thousands.

You obviously need to do some serious schooling (note that doesn't equal googling)

Note:
My comments are not meant to be rude or condiscending. I'm only trying to point out that you're in over your head and this isn't as easy as googling to set up a home network and saying good enough.

[osprey4]

I was under the impression that in order to provide cable internet access, you had to be a cable company.

I would think that if you really wanted to start an ISP, dial-up is the way to go. This can be done for only a few tens of thousands of dollars. Then you could branch out into W-Fi for only a few hundred thousand.

[nomaxim]

I'll go with Vass on that. I work at a University that has around 25,000 plus users. Well I'd have to go look but I tkink we spend at least a million just for our bandwidth. That does not inclued our T3 lines, servers, techs, Helpdesk, or A/V support. ( and I won't even get into the e-mail headaches )

So figure for 2500 your looking at a couple of grand easy.

EDIT:Oh, and satellite sucks for gaming.