Network password re-entry

[amos]

Win2k fully updated

What I used to do

Logon on to windows. Had a mapped network drive (SAMBA). Win2k automatically used my win username and password to access the network drive.

Hard disk -> Bang -> Reinstall

Now

Logon on to windows. Have a mapped network drive (SAMBA). Win2k repeatedly asks for password to access the network drive.

Obviously I have the right username passwords etc.

Has Win2k changed the way it does things in some recent updates?

Is there some way around this?

My home computer seems happy to do this when sharing drives between Windows systems. But the SAMBA hasn't changed.

Also I seem to get a lot of stuff about my computer being connected to a domain which I don't remember on previous installs (I am forgetful though). Is this new? Obviously no-one round here would be stupid enough to use a windows network, so any win connections are done through SAMBA.

I'd welcome any help on this. Even a set of registry keys that might be key. I have a copy of the old reg settings (but due to various changes don't want to restore the old ones)

Thanks

[DVNT1]

Originally posted by amos
...Obviously no-one round here would be stupid enough to use a windows network...

I find that an insulting (and uneducated) comment. Otherwise I would have been glad to offer you help.

yup sorrry bud change your attitude and perhaps someone might help you

[amos]

Lighten up, man You don't need to take things so personally. If you can't be a bit flippant in life, then I despair. Hey wait until I try sarcasm - imagine the flames I'll get then

Anyhow - sorry all. Nothing I say in a poxy little post is ever meant to offend! I'm really not that important that anything I say can matter. Bear in mind in different parts of the world people use different forms of speech to different degrees. For example I would love to see one Aussie out there who was really bothered by this post.

But to those of you who were offended, please accept my apologies.

[amos]

BTW. Had it occurred to you that if I was asking questions about a windows system, complaining that I was having problems connecting it to a samba server, and ran a windows network at home, that maybe, just maybe, I wasn't being totally serious in making that statement.

[John Prophet]

lol...ur digging the hole deeper n deeper, lol

On my W98 to XP home network..some machines repeatedly ask for the password everytime, some dont..I have seen the reason why explained but I cant rememebr it, maybe someone else can

[amos]

Thanks John. Probably a miner in a past life

I'm a little stumped myself. I don't know if it is a windows related problem or a samba problem, which doesn't make it easier.

I also recall having had the problem before somewhere, but my dire memory and general stupidity prevents me from conjuring up the solution from that mush we call grey matter.

I'll keep looking around the web for some clues.

[jmichna]

Maybe your SAMBA drive is looking for a different password? Or, is getting re-set with a different password once you do logon.

Is the SAMBA drive authenticating through another server? The reason I ask is we employ both Novell and MS Active Directory. I happen to belong to an MS domain. Every time Novell forces users to change their password, the -- supposedly automatic -- password synchronization does not work properly, I can log in to Novell, but all my MS boxes won't authenticate me and I get locked out.

I physically need to avoid the synchronization, hit ctrl-alt-del on an MS domain-logged machine, go to "Change password" and select the MS resources for change. Then I need to log off each machine after Novell password change, then re-log on. A real PITA, and there has been an ongoing -- almost eternal -- corporate IT battle between Novell vs MS AD authentication.

[amos]

>Maybe your SAMBA drive is looking for a different password? Or,
>is getting re-set with a different password once you do logon.
Nope - definitely the sameone.

>Is the SAMBA drive authenticating through another server? The >reason I ask is we employ both Novell and MS Active Directory. I >happen to belong to an MS domain. Every time Novell forces >users to change their password, the -- supposedly automatic -- >password synchronization does not work properly, I can log in >to Novell, but all my MS boxes won't authenticate me and I get >locked out.

>I physically need to avoid the synchronization, hit ctrl-alt-del on >an MS domain-logged machine, go to "Change password" and >select the MS resources for change. Then I need to log off each >machine after Novell password change, then re-log on. A real >PITA, and there has been an ongoing -- almost eternal -- >corporate IT battle between Novell vs MS AD authentication.

All the unames/passwords are definitely the same, and the samba server is the main server and is the machine I am trying to log on to. The problem must be at the windows box end, afaics. It must be clearing the password out,or using the wrong password. Docs suggest that password re-entry is necessary if the machine is not part of a MS domain. But I've never had this before, and there are no MS domains around here, and none on my home network... and all the other pwords work (given the right unames are set up on the machines).

Aha The only thing I noticed is there is a security setting which is to do with sending unencrypted passwords to SMB servers. Maybe the SMB server doesn't recognise the encrypted password. Mind you though - would it not then fail to get it when it was typed in? Oh well.

Thanks for all your help.

[amos]

Got it

Here was the problem in case others encounter it.

It seems the computers locale/keyboard setting was English(US)

I set up the account and password.

Then I must have set my user setting for locale/keyboard as English(Someotherplace). Fair enough as that is where I live.

So when I entered my password in at logon, given I've been taught well and my password includes every type of character under the sun, it accepted it fine. I thought I was typing BlahBlahBlah% say, but really I was typing BlahBlahBlah$, as the pc thought I was using a US keyboard. Then the computer sent the SMB server BlahBlahBLah$ and the SMB server complained. It asked for my password and I typed in BlahBlahBlah% again, but this time due to the user settings it really did see it as BlahBlahBlah%, and hence sent the correct password to SMB.

Anyhow - computer has now emigrated from the US and joined the user in his country, who is pleased to be united - he doesn't have to type so many letters anymore now they are together.

Aint I dumb! Now if you could only see the password as you typed it in (Mmmmm). Old mistake, new twist. Anyone got a third order keyboard locale problem out there!

Not your problem is it John?

Amos