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Old 01-25-2004, 12:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Kids Problem using Ghost & W2k

I have a problem trying to Ghost a working W2k install from a Tyan Tsunami AT motherboard to a Tyan Tiger133 motherboard.

The Tsunami has a 440bx chip set the Tiger has a VIA Apollo Pro 133A chipset.

I did straight disk to disk copy. The cloned disk will boot ok in the Tsunami, but I got a BSOD a few seconds after the W2k splash screen came up. The main message being "Stop: a bunch of hex, Inaccessable_Boot_ Device". Then some suggestions on how to cure the problem, none of which worked, or I could try.

I then took the cloned disk, put it back in the Tsunami, it booted ok. I proceeded to delete several of the device drivers including the Intel Atapi disk controller, thinking since this is plug and pray, it might use a generic driver until it boots up. No go.

Any ideas on how to proceed?

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I don't know what you have already tried, but you may try booting from a 2K CD on the Tiger machine and do boot volume repair on the cloned drive (a.k.a running chkdsk /r, fixboot, fixmbr, etc.). Sometimes after a clone, a boot record needs to be rewritten in the new machine.

Also, check the setting in the Tiger's BIOS for IDE settings such as PIO mode and Block Transfer. If these are set to specific settings that do not fit your drive, the BIOS will detect it but trying to get any data to and from the drive can be a nightmare

Let us know how things go!
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uhh, if I read correctly....you are trying to take a clone from one machine to another..or from one motherboard to another?

I dont think you can do that usually. Some people get away with it using xp by doing a "repair install"...but I know msoft recommends a fresh install because of all the hardware entries from the old motherboard etc.

Plus you may have additonal issues because of the different bioses , one being acpi one being apm possibly(different "HAL"s...hardware abstraction layers)

A fresh install would be best....only other thing to try might be to reinstall over the top of the one that wont boot right...booting from the cd etc.

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I understand the Microsoft stand. My problem is, I install DVD X Copy on the first system, but they have limited activation of new installs. I was hoping to avoid that problem by cloning the Tsunami to Tiger.

Also the Tiger currently has a working install of W2k.

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There are many cases where cloning a drive over to another system just won't work. However, I perform multiple clones of drives across many system (hardware and software) boundaries without any trouble on 98SE up through XP Pro.

I think with a little tweaking of the BIOS IDE settings you should get some results. Sorry I'm not more familiar with that particular board.
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For the most part, when our office was W98, there was no problem cloning. Even with NT4.0. But any attempt with W2k seems to fail the same way.

I think some of the answer lies in the fact that, W98 is built on a DOS foundation where as W2k is a "pure 32bit" environment.

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For the most part, when our office was W98, there was no problem cloning. Even with NT4.0. But any attempt with W2k seems to fail the same way.
i'm a little skeptical that you even had much success cloning nt installs from one mobo to mobo. the hardware would have to be very similar for it to work. nt is just as '32bit' as w2k...in fact, the PnP in w2k is slightly better..so all logic would argue that w2k was a tad more forgiving than nt. either way, nt or w2k...don't expect too much in the way of success.
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However, I perform multiple clones of drives across many system (hardware and software) boundaries without any trouble on 98SE up through XP Pro.
Ahh, the good old days. With progress comes changes. W98 was very forgiving with finding and installing new hardware, very seldom do I have any trouble doing it that way.

As mentioned, will not work that way with W2K, as youve found out. Have you tried the repair option? It was mentioned and it might be your only shot.

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