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Old 01-10-2004, 10:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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what can i expect with this mobo and cpu

I am thinking about putting together a cheap new comp to upgrade from my amd 475k62. Iv'e read a lot of posts and reviews and im thinking about using a ...
BIOSTAR nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU, Model "M7NCD PRO" -RETAIL

Specifications:
Supported CPU: AMD Athlon/AthlonXP(Palomino, T-bred and Barton)/Duron Processors
Chipset: nVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP
Max FSB: 400MHz
RAM: 3x DIMM for Dual Channel DDR400/333/266/200(Both 64-bit and 128-bit) Max 3GB
IDE: 2x UltraDMA 133 up to 4 Devices
Slots: 1x AGP 4X/8X, 5x PCI
Ports: 2xPS2,2xCOM,1xLPT,6xUSB2.0(Rear 2),1xLAN,Audio Ports
Onboard Audio: Realtek ALC650 6-Channel AC97 CODEC
Onboard LAN: Realtek 8201BL 10/100M
Form Factor: ATX
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AMD Athlon XP 1800+, 266 MHz FSB, 256K Cache Processor - OEM

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Model: AMD Athlon XP 1800+
Core: Thoroughbred
Operating Frequency: 1.53GHz
FSB: 266MHz
Cache: L1/64K+64K; L2/256K
Voltage: 1.6V
Process: 0.13Micron
Socket: Socket A
Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, 3DNOW!, 3DNOW!+
My questions are these. What kind of over clocking would this be capable of and what is the relationship between fsb speed, and the speed of the memory I use. I'd like to get about 1.9 Ghz out of this configuration while keeping the cost for mobo, processor, and memory under $200.


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Old 01-10-2004, 10:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1.9 megahertz.. wow... thats ancient...don't you mean 5 gigahertz?
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Oops...yes I infact mean 1.9Ghz NOT Mhz..Iv'e heard that this is possible.

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Old 01-10-2004, 07:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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you might want to edit your first post then. i would suggest getting a 2500+ barton perhaps if it fits in your budget. you also have to consider the cost of the heatsink if you are buying a better one then stock for better overclocking.
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Old 01-11-2004, 09:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ok so what kind of overclocking would I be capable of with the 2500+ barton chip?
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2500+ Barton chips have been known to be capable of hitting the same speeds as a 3200+ Barton (2.2GHz) fairly easily. However, you're going to want to get yourself a stick of PC3200 memory as well if you decide to shoot for this. Running the 2500+ at 3200+ speeds basically involves changing the stock FSB of the chip from 166MHz to 200MHz (leaving the multiplier at the stock setting of 11). Most of the time, this is achievable with minor increaes in core voltage (if at all), and with decent air cooling. Keeping all of this under 200 bucks, though... well...

Figure for the mobo, 2500+, 512MB of PC3200, and a decent HSF, will probably run you 250-275 total at Newegg, depending on the actual memory purchased, and the HSF you decide on.
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Newegg prices:

Biostar M7NCD Pro motherboard, $66.00
AMD XP 2500+ CPU OEM, $85.00
Vantec AeroFlow TMD CPU cooler, $28.99
Total $179.99

You'll need a little bit more $ to buy the RAM.
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If I wait till a little while, I can spend a little over my budget of $200. So I'll wait about a month, but in the meantime are you guys talking about just one stick of memory? I understand this board has dual channel capabilities. Would I have to use the dual channel feature to get those speeds, and if not would it be easier for the processor if I did? Also if anyone could recommend a sight that explains in detail the basics of over clocking I'd really appreciate it.
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Just purchased from Newegg

Abit NF7-S V2 91.99
2500 Barton XP 92.00
Corsair CMX 512 512 Pro RT 135.00

The reason Ispent so much on the RAM cause Abit recommended this for best performance.
hoping this system rocks
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Kewl Pickel, let me know how it turns out. I had thought about the NF7-S. And I haven't bought anything yet.
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