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Old 01-05-2004, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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3DProphet Hercules Radeon 9800 Pro problem

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Asus X Series P4S533 MX motherboard
Pentium 4 2.4 GHz
1 GB DDR SDRAM
520 Watt Power Supply

My Radeon 9800 Pro cannot run at standard clock speeds on this platform. I have to underclock it, otherwise, the machine crashes. I originally had a smaller power supply, but I couldn't even get the thing to turn on. Then I put in this server power supply. It booted up, but when I went to play a game, it crashed. So I rebooted and underclocked the 9800 Pro until it would finally run the game. It looks great, but not optimal.

So, can anyone help me out here? Why would my machine need 520 Watts to barely run itself? The only thing I can think of is that the motherboard can't handle the high performance 9800 Pro...

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Do you mean that the core doesn't work at default speeds?
What are the symptoms when you run it at default speeds?

Also, try disabling Fast Writes for the card and also disable the VPU Recover option (it is known to cause crashes in games).
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Yes, I cannot run the core at default clock speeds.

Symptoms:

With a 350 Watt power supply, the computer would get right to Windows XP, then crash immediately. With onboard vid memory turned on, everything went fine (with crappy graphics).

Tech support told me that sounded like a power problem. I put in a 520 Watt power supply. This time, the computer, using 9800 Pro, got into Windows XP. I ran the demo that comes with the card, which promptly crashed the machine. I did this numerous times. The error message that would come up after rebooting from a crash (and continue to throughout my trials below) was that my card overclocked, and it would ask me if I wanted to restore the default settings of the core clock.

Finally, I went into the program that comes with the card which allows you to tweak the card's core clock and memory(?) clock (3DTweaker). I jacked both down. The demo ran then. I then loaded up Day of Defeat (Counterstrike mod). It ran rough. I loaded up Counterstrike itself, where it crashed. I then further lowered the core clock speed.

Eventually, I got it to where I could run both games fine, as well as Combat Flight Simulator 3 and America's Army (fairly demanding games). The graphics on CFS3, however, have problems. For instance, the terrain (at low altitutes especially) becomes flooded with bright colors of white, purple, and yellow - not normal. This occurs over the entire range of graphics and display settings.

From time to time (rare), America's Army will crash my PC, and upon rebooting, it will tell me (like it did back when nothing would run) that my card overclocked.

Back to the power supply issue, I don't see how I would need a personal nuclear power plant to run my card. I'm only running it, the motherboard, a CD/DVD drive, a floppy, and one 80 GB hard drive (nothing too demanding).

Hope this helps you help me! Thanks!
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Defective mobo or card Id say. Can you try your video C in a friends PC? Best thing to do. Any "good quality" psu of 350+ watts is fine. THe thing is the card alone eats lots of power-thats why no matter what else in rig, 350 is good bet. 420watts or so if multi-hdd's cdroms and such which you dont have. Do you happen to know your system temps also or the V rails useing a hardware monitor like Probe or MBM etc.
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