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Old 11-01-2003, 04:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Installed Zalman 7000A (AL/CU) on a P4 2.4C, temps pretty much the same :(

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guys I just installed a Zalman 7000A (AL/CU) on my friends 2.4C and the temps changed only 1-2deg C, is this right ?
fanmate not connected to allow max fan speed
cpu running at 3.0, its was doing the same on the stock fan but I wanted to keep it cooler

please let me know what you guys think


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Need to take a couple of other factors into account...Perhaps you are not getting proper airflow through your case? Try running with the side panels off and tying any non-rounded ide cables out of the expected air flow path to see if there is a difference. Also, how are you monitoring your temp? I know first hand that BIOS does not always report accurately. Third party software such as CPUcool or Sisoft Sandra can give you some reference as to how accurate your BIOS reading is. This may help avoid heat-a-phobia if you're seeing high temps that aren't correct. Are you using thermal compound? Even a cheap thermal compund is preferable to none. Also, what fan were you running before? You have not provided your system specs so I can only offer ideas limited to basic troubleshooting of heat problems. Hope this is of some help.
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Need to take a couple of other factors into account...Perhaps you are not getting proper airflow through your case? Try running with the side panels off and tying any non-rounded ide cables out of the expected air flow path to see if there is a difference. Also, how are you monitoring your temp? I know first hand that BIOS does not always report accurately. Third party software such as CPUcool or Sisoft Sandra can give you some reference as to how accurate your BIOS reading is. This may help avoid heat-a-phobia if you're seeing high temps that aren't correct. Are you using thermal compound? Even a cheap thermal compund is preferable to none. Also, what fan were you running before? You have not provided your system specs so I can only offer ideas limited to basic troubleshooting of heat problems. Hope this is of some help.
well this post was about improvement from stock to zalman, all other variables being the same
I didnt say that the temps are high, just not very improved and Id expect some improvement after paying $40 for the damn HSF


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I went Zalman for reduction in dba's rather than a drastic reduction in temperature. Other thing is I would have thought if you have experienced 1-2C improvement at idle, then you would see more improvement when the CPU is working, and potentially more still when overclocking.
Sounds about what you'd expect anyway.
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Well, all other factors being the same includes any airflow issues in the case. A fancy-pants CPU cooler, working in a case that's filled with hot air, isn't going to do much. Many times, people with cooling issues expect a bigger CPU cooler to fix everything, when their cabling and airflow in the case is the actual suspect. You also have to keep in mind that most reviewers test CPU coolers either on a hot plate, or on a motherboard that isn't in a case. These will give you a general idea as to how the CPU coolers perform without the possibility of interference by other cooling factors. So, on paper, yes the Zalman cooler is leaps and bounds better, efficiency wise, than the retail P4 cooler. But, your results may (and will) vary.
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I went Zalman for reduction in dba's rather than a drastic reduction in temperature. Other thing is I would have thought if you have experienced 1-2C improvement at idle, then you would see more improvement when the CPU is working, and potentially more still when overclocking.
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the difference is at full load and OC


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Well, all other factors being the same includes any airflow issues in the case. A fancy-pants CPU cooler, working in a case that's filled with hot air, isn't going to do much. Many times, people with cooling issues expect a bigger CPU cooler to fix everything, when their cabling and airflow in the case is the actual suspect. You also have to keep in mind that most reviewers test CPU coolers either on a hot plate, or on a motherboard that isn't in a case. These will give you a general idea as to how the CPU coolers perform without the possibility of interference by other cooling factors. So, on paper, yes the Zalman cooler is leaps and bounds better, efficiency wise, than the retail P4 cooler. But, your results may (and will) vary.

good point, I was just thinking about that, the zalman has a nice construction that should indeed work better when the case airflow is good
the airflow will change when the machine is fully ready, its still under construction and the inside is still a mess


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