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Old 11-01-2003, 09:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Acer v76m-1a mobo cpu upgrade help

Will an Acer v76m-1a motherboard support a cpu ugrade from a 400mhz to 733mhz? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 11-02-2003, 06:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum!

hmmm..there is a chart here but its kind of hard to make it out exactly...I see it listing up to 700mhz, but then its says "or" but it doesnt say anything after that, lol. (I suppose the next line showing the "power SE" goes along with it..what model is your acer?) http://www.acer.com.ph/service_upgrade_table.htm

another page http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers.../power_se.html

Is it a 'Power SE' or "Power 4300"?? maybe that is what the chart above was referencing? Maybe the "or" is leading to the next line where it says "Intel Pentium 3 750"...that would be a fat upgrade if it would work.


another link with the same bios links evidently.. http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

I would think you'd be safe with at least a 700m celeron. Not sure about a 733 though. But a jump from 400 to 700 will be an ok boost. Sometimes you can go to www.anandtech.com and look in the "for sale" forum and find some cool deals.

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Wow!! I'm as happy as a pig in sh*t to get a reply. I have an Acer Power SE and if I'm reading the chart on the Acer site correctly, the board will support up to a PIII 750. I already bought a celeron 733 on eBay for $29 and I'm thinking about giving it a try. Will it make my machine run hotter? Is it hard to install? I've installed ram and sound cards but I'm not sure if I can handle this. Is there anything else that has to be done after it is installed? Thanks again for the help, John!
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Old 11-02-2003, 08:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, a 733 celeron wont really make it run any hotter so I wouldnt sweat that part.

And they're not really hard to install at all. You just hafta be sorta careful..dont be in any hurry and start forcing stuff.

And dont touch the pins of the cpu itself..try to hold it by the edges etc.

First you have to pop off the heatsink...and you have to be careful there cuz you can accidently break the "lugs" on the motherboard...and that would be bad. Usually there is a little "thingy" sticking up where you put a flat blade screwdriver so you can push down and out simultaneously to get the prong to come out from under the lug on the motherboard...just look at it really good with a flashlight before you start messing with it and you should see whats up. And again, dont go using a lot of muscle.

After the heatsink is off...there is a little "lever" along side the cpu...you push it down and pull it over SLIGHLTY so that it will pop free and then you raise it up. Doesnt take a lot of force.

The socket is called a "ZIF" socket..stands for "zero insertion force"..that means once you pop that lever up..the cpu is just sitting free in the socket with no tension on it etc..it should lift right out.

Then its just a matter of lining up the new cpu the right way....if you look at the motherboard you see that two of the corners are missing the holes...and on the cpu two of the corners are missing pins....what a coincidence! lol..so obviously you line up the missing pins with the missing holes....so really the cpu only fits one way and again, dont force it down...if it isnt just sort of "falling" into the holes you may have it misaligned so double check it.

ok, you get the cpu in there nice and flat then you just push that lever back down and click it in its little place (like a car hood prop thingy).

Now what you need to do is check the heatsink...see what kind of thermal compound it had....if it had a "pad"...which is like a little flat piece of gum...you need to scrape it off or use some "goof off" to get it offa there and clean the heatsink really clean. If it just had thermal compound on it then just cleanthat off. Also clean the new cpu off good if it has some old compound still on it.

Then you need to put some new thermal compound on the cpu....JUST ONE "DOT" is all you really need..dont go using half the tube!! lol. the pressure of the heatsink will spread it out..it only needs to be thin, so just one small "dot".

Then its just a matter of putting the heatsink on...which can be the hardest part..so make sure it is lined up right etc...it has to be FLAT on the cpu..it cant have one side all jacked up.

go here http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...5E6678,00.html and check out the videos. (ignore what they say about the thermal pad vs the thermal compound, lol)

Dont try to cheat and use the same old pad either..it MAY work but it MAY not, lol. Just run to the local comp store and get some thermal compound if you dont have some.


Quote-> "Is there anything else that has to be done after it is installed? "

That I don tknow, but if you go to the acer site and download the manual it should tell you..there could be jumpers, there could be bios setting possibly.

But I doubt it...probably just reboot and it'll figure it out on its own.

Good luck, JP
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I'm sure glad you mentioned the thermal compound. I had no idea about that. Not sure where I can buy it here. I live in a little cement block apt. with no A/C about 8 miles outside Acapulco, Mexico. Maybe they have the stuff at the local Acer repair place. Anyhow, I'll have to wait till tomorrow to search for it cause those types of places are not open Sundays. I can't thank you enough for all the advice you have given me. I'll let you know how everything turns out.

Thanks again, RZ
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Thanks to your excellent instructions the removal and installation went smoothly but it didn't seem to work. When I powered up the monitor would not come on and I could not turn the system off from the main power switch. Had to use the switch at the back. I re-installed the original processor and things are as they were. Guess I was hoping for too much. At the least, I gained a bit more technical experience. Thanks again for the help.

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The V76M board only takes older 3.3v processors. The 733MHz Celeron runs on 1.75v. It's the so-called 'Coppermine' Celeron and won't run at 3.3v.

However, you may be able to get something for nothing. Find JP2 on the mother board. It's a block of 6 pins (2x3) located mid-way between PCI slot 1 and the RAM slots. Position the board with the CPU at the top. There should be silk-screen printing about an inch above the jumpers describing the jumper positions.

If both jumpers are on the right side then the FSB speed is 66MHz. Shift both jumpers to the left side and the FSB will run at 100MHz and give you an effective CPU clock speed of 600MHz. (This is called overclocking. The Celeron is extremely overclockable). If the machine boots you are winning.

This won't hurt the CPU but it will run warmer. If the system crashes more often then get a better heat sink and fan. eBay has tons on offer.

Or, if you have to spend more anyway, go to www.powerleap.com and check out the Neo S370. It acts as an adapter to convert the voltages and you can use your 733MHz chip. Even if it doesn't work it includes a nice heatsink and fan to keep your overclocked 400 cool.
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All you have to do then is buy an adapter to make the 733 work.

this adapter http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=S370TUA


Notice it says this---------------->

"Also adapts Socket 370 motherboards made for PPGA processors for use with. . .
. . .FC-PGA (Coppermine) processors. "

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You folks sure know your stuff. I'm going to try the overclocking procedure first, then look into ordering the adapter. Thanks for all the help.
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