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Old 10-20-2003, 06:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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IBM Knew Drives Were Defective !

October 16, 2003
IBM employees knew the company was producing hard drives -- dubbed the "DeathStar" by some users -- with a failure rate much higher than normal, according to documents introduced in a California class action case.

"Do you mean to tell me we're shipping drives for distribution with ... defects of 17 percent?" one unidentified employee asks another in an e-mail, according to a transcript of an August court hearing in which the message was read, Bloomberg News reported.

The California case was filed in Alameda County Superior Court in 2001 by six consumers who accused the company of knowingly selling IBM DeskStar drives with an unusually high failure rate while concealing that information from consumers.

A similar case is pending in Texas, where a judge has granted class-action status to a suit representing consumers in 18 states.

Court records indicate the company sold 3.8 million of the hard drives for desktop computers. Typically, a failure rate of less than 1 percent would be expected.

Hewlett-Packard reported a failure rate of 20 percent with DeskStar drives installed in H-P computers and attorneys say some IBM customers reported failure rates as high as 45 percent.

According to testimony in the cases, when the 15 to 75-gigabyte DeskStar drives fail, they make a clicking sound that became known to technicians as "the click of death." Data stored on the faulty drives cannot be retrieved. Trying to access the data can cause the defect to migrate to additional drives, witnesses testified.

IBM has since sold most of its hard drive business to Hitachi.
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Trying to access the data can cause the defect to migrate to additional drives, witnesses testified.

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Old 10-20-2003, 06:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Unfortunately I know this all too well...I lost over 30GB of data when my 60GB Deathstar clicked it's way to the grave.

http://www.techimo.com/forum/showthr...hlight=martoch


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Old 10-20-2003, 11:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Trying to access the data can cause the defect to migrate to additional drives, witnesses testified.
??? DeathStars can infect other drives?
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Old 10-20-2003, 11:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ya that comment got me also , i am wondering how would it effect other drives
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Unless it would throw the IDE controller completely out of whack I'm a bit confused by that one too. I don't see how that "damage" the other drive though.
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Old 10-21-2003, 04:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Unfortunately I know this all too well...I lost over 30GB of data when my 60GB Deathstar clicked it's way to the grave.

http://www.techimo.com/forum/showthr...hlight=martoch

I have a 80 GB WD 7200 RPM and a Maxtor 20 GB 5400 RPM, the 20 clicks every now and then, I have smart enabled and I am waiting for it to warn me. I use the 20 for all my MP3's and Music Vids.

I took precaution and backed up all my MP3's and stuff to 2 DVD+R's.
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The only way I could think of would be if it was some sort of RAID setup, lol and it mirrored the freaked up IBM.

Of course, every time I have been to/or heard a court case I have heard some sort of bogus testimony..soo...not surprising.

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I've had two ibm drives go bad on me sofar and i've got a third that starting making an unusually high pitched sound a couple days ago.
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Old 10-22-2003, 01:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I own a 30gig Deathstar. My first one died the click of death and was RMA'ed. the replacement is working fine over a year later.(hope i didn't jinx myself.)
From what I remember reading at the time it was a heat issue. Mine sits in front of an 120 mm fan now so heat is no longer an issue.
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Yeah somethign about the ultra micro space between filaments and the expansion of the glass platter when it heated up AFAIK

AS for me, I'm at a 100% failure rate for my drives. 2 75GXp and one 60GXP. 3 for 3. All died and all RMA'd.
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