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Old 10-19-2003, 09:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A+ Cert. Training

Hello, I am fairly new to the tech world. I have recently built my first build, and really liked doing that. I am gonna build another one very soon. I want to learn more about building, repairing and networking systems. I want to get my A+ certification to start. What is the best way to train for A+? I see there are online training programs, are these any good? Any helpful info would be greatly appreciated!!

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Old 10-19-2003, 10:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to techimo.

I registered up for a A+ course. The course taught me the hardware and software components of a computer and how to research/troubleshoot a problem. Real world will teach you the rest. You have built your own machine which is a real good start. Lots of satisfaction in building your own rig.

Online tests and crams are good for boning up on your computer knowledge. It shows you the holes.

Go to a bookstore with a really good assortment of computer reference books and you should be able to find a A+ Training book. SAMS puts out a pretty good one. You need books for reference in this business anyways so why not start building your collection with an A+ training book. Computer books are expensive but worth it.

Stick around techimo for the real world that I spoke of.

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Old 10-19-2003, 10:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Buy the Mike Meyers A+ book..I think it is in its 4th edition now. As for training..hmm...look around and see if any local colleges offer it....I took it at a local college...it wasnt perfect but it was enough....in other words the instructor made a few mistakes blah blah...and obviously he couldnt cover EVERYTHING but it will motivate you to study for yourself and thats the key.

And yes, just come here to this forum everyday and you will see all kinds of nitty gritty repair and A+ level stuff being discussed.



Also, my best advice is to have a spare system..or two is even better...to fool around with....or just a few spare hard drives will do the same thing...cuz you can just have one comp with two hard drives.....one hard drive is your regular hard drive with the install that you use everyday etc..you dont want to be experimenting around with it...BUT..if you have a second hard drive..you can just physically unhook the first one and slap in the second one...then you can do whatever you want with it. Install windows....reinstall windows etc etc. You learn by DOING.

And I really suggest that you learn as much DOS as possible. Although it seems ancient, it is a GREAT foundation and as of yet, you still MUST know it to be a good tech...just look at this thread http://www.techimo.com/forum/t85016.html you look at the 8th post down and its all about simple DOS commands! lol.

What I used to do when I first started was , using WinME, I would go to a certain folder such as my documents...I would look at what all was in the folder.....then I would go to a DOS prompt and navigate my way to the same folder. I would do a DIR to see what was listed in the folder in DOS....I would make sure it all matches up with what windows shows...which it will. Then I would do something like make a scratch folder in My Documents..name it something like..."scratch".

Then I would put some junk files in it like little txt files and call em junk1.txt junk2.txt. So then I would do another DIR from the DOS prompt to see if the folders and files I created in windows would show up in DOS...of course they did. Then I would delete the junk1.txt file FROM DOS and then go refresh the folder in windows and see that, indeed, the junk1.txt file was gone, lol.

I know it sounds childish but in my opinion it is a GREAT way to get familiar with the real nuts and bolts.

Also a great learning thing for me was to take a plain old floppy and, in W98, just put the system files on it..which is an option when you format a floppy...it is "copy system files only"..ok, cool, so you have a bootable floppy...big deal, it has hardly any functionality cuz it only has the 3 files on it. So, NOW, what I learned to do was edit that floppy so that it would give drivers to the cdrom so that I could boot off of the floppy and access the cdrom. Of course when you make a regular boot floppy from control panel, it will have the cdrom drivers etc...but it was a great learning thing to be able to do it manually.

Just stuff like that . make your own special boot floppies with little utilities on them etc. Excellent way to learn.


Also, become a PRO with fdisk, with all of the options...learn em, know em inside and out. Also with all the W2k/XP recovery console type issues....cuz they are quite common.




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My course was designed around Win98/Y2K. The instructor new all about WinNT but not Y2K. I purchased and installed Y2K 3 months before the course startup. The instructor did not. Take a guess who answered the specifically Y2K questions posed by the class?

Why wouldn't the instructor install Y2K previous to the course? Who knows?

Since I was there to learn and apply problem solving techniques, I loaned the instructor my Windows 2000 Resource Kit by Microsoft Press and Using Windows 2000 Professional Special Edition by QUE.

After a week, problem solved.

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yeah...sounds typical. You have to remember with instructors...they are teaching LOTS of classes...they cant/dont take each one to heart, lol.

My experience is that if a person wants to learn something...or more broadly..if he wants to do ANYTHING...he can do it....but he has to want it...if you want it, nothing can stop you.

So the ones who want to learn wont whine about the cost of buying stuff like you mentioned, resource kits etc. When I was working at a comp store....I approached the owner about getting some resource kits....we almost exclusively used W98se at the time....I had bought the resource kit for myself even though I was making MINIMUM WAGE at the time, lol. Anyway, he didnt see the point of it, lol. I told him he could get a used one off of amazon.com for around $15 and it would be in new condition.....he was like "what good is it?". What a clod....of course, he is out of business now so you see the end result of his "wisdom"

Anyway, so now I also have the W2k resource kit and the XP kit. Also the Msoft MCSE 70-210 training kit, and A+ and N+ books etc etc, lol. So if one wants to do something, he should settle it in his OWN mind that he is going to do it..and then he should take every step and give himself every chance to succeed.

if we count on teachers,bosses, spouses, governments etc etc...uhh, we are in trouble, lol. God gave each one of us a brain for a reason, lol.

So I am taking an MCSE "cram" class right now....its not even a class per se, just a "cram" for the test itself...not the best way to learn but I do the learning OUTSIDE of class. (thats the idea anyway, lol)

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My experience is that if a person wants to learn something...or more broadly..if he wants to do ANYTHING...he can do it....but he has to want it...if you want it, nothing can stop you.



John, I agree totally with you on that! And thanks for all the info. I'm ready to dive in. I'm going to go buy some books and start studying.

And I love the forums, lots of great info and help here. The more I can learn, the better.
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Old 10-22-2003, 10:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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also I would suggest that you check out cisco networking academy for schools in your local area, a lot of tech centers offer these classes to high school kids , it is a two year course, but is the best that I have found.
I just finished the first semester and will be taking the A+ exams next week.

we have already started the networking + and will be ready to take that exam in december, so far I have been able to hold a 95.8% grade. and I am 61 yr. old
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