Confused about the new durons

[wju425]

As you know they're out and Newegg's got the 1.4 and 1.6 durons. There's also 1.8 durons out there somewhere.

Here's where I'm confused after scanning news items about them.

What's the real core speeds of these cpus? One item showed they o/c the duron 1.6 to 1.6 ghz to match an xp1900 (that's with a cache trick done on them). If that's not really a 1.6g duron why call them 1.6? I can understand calling them 1600s like we did with the xps.

Their cores are called "appalbred" Since they're model 8s that would be the durons' version of "t-bred" cores? Like the "morgans" are to "palominos"?

I've read interesting stuff about the new durons. I'd like to get a 1.8 duron to play with.

\o/ Billy

[blubomber]

As far as i know, they are not pro rating the Durons. so a 1.8 is running at 1.8GHz. As far as the core differeces are concerned, i have not seen much info on that yet. But i would also love to get my hands on the 1.8. I currently use a Duron at home and work and love them. GREAT budget cpu.

[wju425]

I've found some more info on them. They are definitely t-bred "B" cores so that makes them interesting. They're supposed to be very overclockable. Still haven't found anything about the core speeds though.

\o/ Billy

[Darthgary]

The Duron is the best Performance/Price Ration you can buy imo. The Celery is a POS.

[Ultima]

I've read quite a bit about these new durons, and like Blubomber said already, they come as is.

Being 1.8 really runs 1.8, and my guess is these babies are to fill in the gap that AMD left open when they stopped producing the lower end XP's, and these are the replacements.

And as always the durons are what we've come to expect of them, overclockable, cheap, and almost on par with XP performance.

AMD has gone for best price/performance crown again, and as much as Intel takes the crown in the upper section, that much is the duron kickin down the celery, like 6 feet under.

My guess is, since the new durons are based on Tbred-B core, they will be very overclockable, and cellies can't even begin to touch them.

Cause if you hold that duron 1.8 next to an XP, that would be the duron version of an XP2200.
Intel's fastest celly runs 2.6Ghz atm I think, and I think that the 1.8 duron will kick it's @$$, cause like said before, the cellies are crap.

Since the demise of the Cyrix, the celly was the worst cpu out there, till Via came along with their C3, but that isn't really meant for desktop anyway, so ......

This is getting too long a story, I'm cutting it short. LOL

[Darthgary]

The Celery does suck but I dont think its fair to say a 2.6 Ghz celery would be slower then a 1.8 Ghz duron, the core may be crap but thats to big of a frequency difference, a wopping 800 Mhz.

[Ultima]

True, but ya have to take into account that the Duron is an XP with just less cash.

I've also read that these babies come with a 200 as well as a 266Mhz fsb.

Tell ya what, I'll benchmark some cellies 2.6Ghz today at work, and post the benchmarks here.

Let's see how they compare to the XP2200, which would give a pretty good idea of what the score of a duron 1.8/266 should be.

Okay, maybe it won't beat it at performance, thos I doubt it'll be far away from it, but then let's look at the price.

Ya can get the 1.6Ghz duron for 41 bucks on pricewatch, where the 2.4Ghz celly costs 79.

We'll wait and see.

[Eladijaz]

Hi,
In many cases it's probably not that far off actually. For a large number of tasks the cel 2ghz sits at around the performance of a the Thunderbird 1.33ghz ... Extrapolate from that, assuming that the new Duron performs around the same clock for clock as the Thunderbird, which I think is reasonable, and it makes the new Duron look very good in comparison. There are of course cases where this is completely untrue and the Celeron performs as well as it's big brother (P4) at the same clock speed. Check THG for details on these and other CPUs, happily benchmarked against one another ... http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/index.html
Regards,
Elad.

[Eladijaz]

Originally posted by Ultima

Let's see how they compare to the XP2200, which would give a pretty good idea of what the score of a duron 1.8/266 should be.

Hi,
It would be great of you to post some benchmarks. Thanks in advance. I think tho', you are expecting a bit much from the Duron if you want it to be as good as an Athlon XP clock for clock. The cache will make significant differences in most cases - hence the nomenclature.
Regards,
Elad.

[Gait_Keeper]

Hmm.......very interesting

anymore links???

yes lets see some benchmarks

where do you work to be able to bechmark?