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Old 10-10-2003, 11:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Card for AGPv1.0 in a PII/233?

Hi, I would like to buy a card at about the NVidia GeForce2 price point for my ANCIENT PII/233 with 128MBRAM. My old NVidia TNT card no longer talks OpenGL with Quake2, even with the newest drivers. Trying to get the old turdly computer to eke out yet one more year...

Have searched for hours for info on newer cards compatibility with AGP Version 1.0 and can't find much.

In your opinion,

Q1: what would be a good card under about $40 for this computer, to support OpenGL on old games like Quake2, Unreal, Half Life, etc.?

Q2: at what stage in video card evolution did AGP v1.0 compatibility get dropped; please give examples from NVidia, etc.

Q3: Is there a good online tutorial about AGP version compatibility you could link to?

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Are you looking for only new stuff? I think a lot of folks here could private sell something to you.

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Old 10-10-2003, 11:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Just thought of something.... Visit www.pricewatch.com and click on the video cards section. When that loads, there is a search box for search this category, enter 1X and submit. That should give you something to start with.
Or enter AGP and submit.

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Old 10-10-2003, 12:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A chart with some cool info about ATI compatability

http://mirror.ati.com/support/faq/agpchart.html

Are you saying youre tnt card did work but now it doesnt??


Also, what motherboard do you have?...you can probably get a p2-450 for less than $25 shipped and realize a nice little speed boost...or if its a "440bx" board you might even be able to jump to a P3 setup and get more than another year out of it.

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Thanks to all! John P - I posted a new thread concerning your suggested motherboard/CPU upgrade in the "motherboards" forum:

http://www.techimo.com/forum/showthr...threadid=83998

"Are you saying youre tnt card did work but now it doesnt??"
If memory serves, the TNT did have 3D acceleration working for some games, but was never very easy to work with that way, particularly with Quake2. Sorry for the vagueness, but that has been several years ago and I have forgotten the details. The TNT does still work in 2D.

At this time, selecting "OpenGL" or any other option except "software" in Quake II video setup returns the console error, "3D acceleration not detected."
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hmmm, have you tried uninstalling the card altogether, and then reinstalling it?

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Did uninstall & re-install the TNT. When "OpenGL" is selected in Quake 2, the Q2 console still says, "hardware acceleration not found."

Thanks to all for the info - there are a number of choices on Ebay for newer video cards compatible with AGP v1.0, which is described as 1X/2X more often than v1.0
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You need a card that's still backward compatible to AGP 2x mode, and has a low enough power consumption to stay within AGP 1.0 specified power budget.

I usually put (fanless non-pro) Radeon 9200 cards into those old systems. Both criteria met, graphics rendering performance well above what these old CPUs will ever be able to demand. The new "9200SE" breed will even fit your $40 budget.
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