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Old 10-08-2003, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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ati9220 and mx440

im sorry that this is long, but please help me.
here are the specs of my current geforce 4 mx 440 64mb ddr and i want to compare it to the Ati 9200 which i believe i can only buy cause of the costs of the better cards. either this 9200 or a
fx 5200 .

can some one tell me if its worth buying a 9200 cause i really want to improve my gaming abit. will these specs improve it.

and if i get a 4X Ati 9200 instead of a 8x will it change the performance. cause i got a GA-8ST800 gigabyte motherboard which only supports 4X AGP.
thanks.

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GeForce4 MX440 64MB DDR 4x AGP Card

BFG Asylum GeForce4 MX440 64MB DDR
4x AGP inteface ·
64MB DDR RAM ·
250MHz Core Clock ·
350MHz Dual RAMDAC ·
256-bit 3D and 2D graphics accelerator ·
nVidia nView display technologies -
supports mirrored and dual-display operation ·
Lightspeed Memory Architecture II ·
Accuview Antialiasing ·
High Definition video processing engine ·
MX memory crossbar ·
API Support: Direct-X, Open GL ICD for Windows ·
Dual VGA connectors ·
1.0 billion texels/sec. ·
31 million triangles/sec. ·
5.3GB/second memory bandwidth

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ATI RADEON 9200 128MB DDR 8x AGP Video Card w/TV
ATI RADEON 9200 GPU ·
8x AGP ·
128 MB DDR RAM ·
ATI TRUFORM technology ·
ATI SMARTSHADER technology ·
ATI SMOOTHVISION technology ·
ATI HYPER Z II technology ·
250 MHz core clock ·
500 MHz DDR RAM clock ·
6.4 GB memory bandwidth ·
Optimized for Intel Pentium 4 SSE2 and AMD Althon 3Dnow! processor instructions ·
Supports 3D resolutions (32-bit color) up to 2048 x 1536 ·
Support for DirectX 8.1 and OpenGLR 1.3 features ·
4 parallel rendering pipelines process up to 1.2 billion pixels
per seconds
1.4 pixel shaders support up to 6 texture per rendering pass
40 million triangles per second peak throughput
Filtered display of images up to 1920 pixels wide

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i just need to know. i dont want a 9700 pro or any thing like that. it is too expensive for me. i just want to know if the 9200 is much better. and will really help me for gaming compared to a mx 440 64mb

what does the fx 5200 have which the 9200 dont. and vice versa. and why would u pick either one of them if you had the choice

thanks

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Old 10-09-2003, 12:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Saluton,
The 9200 is ok, and would be better than your MX440, but it's not going to be crazily better ... only a bit.
Without knowing your budget, I'd say go for either a 9100 or a 4200 if you can stretch it to there. THEN I would say that the improvements would be significant.

Regarding AGP 4x Graphics: 8x cards are AGP 3 standard and will be backwards compatible to AGP 2 but will run at 4xAGP speed only. The reverse is also generally true. The problems that occur are mostly to do with voltages ... so check that your card and slot can run at the same voltages. 1.5v is optimum for compatibility. It's unlikely you will fry anything as the slots and cards are 'keyed' to prevent this, but it is possible to end up with a card you can't plug in. In your current situation this is not the case.
Also, there is no humanly discernible difference in graphics speed of 4xAGP cards when compared to 8xAGP cards. The only time you might notice would be if you were to run some game or program that needed to use a massive amount of textures using AGP texturing. I am not aware of any game available that would do this.

The 5200 is directx 9 compliant and so will run ok in directx9 games. The 9200 (also the 9100 and 4200) is directx8 compliant and so will do well in dx8, but not so well in dx9. Your mx440 is a dx7 compliant card sup'ed up to do better in dx8, but it's still really only dx7 - it will do dismally in dx9. Tho' the 4200 is not dx8 compliant, it is still often a better card than the 5200 in dx9 and much better for dx8.
Hope that wasn't too confusing!

Here is a good shortcut:

http://www4.tomshardware.com/graphic...714/index.html

The benchmarks section compares all the cards mentioned above. Note that the 9100 is referred to in these benchmarks under its old name the 8500 and the 9200 is a slightly quicker (~5%) version of the 9000.
Enjoy!

Regards,
Elad.

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