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Old 09-27-2003, 11:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Scsi and Ide??

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Short and sweet, I have an old computer with only 1 ide controller (and 2 floppy controllers =) ). Anyways It has a 2 gb scsi drive and has run out of room. What I want to do is put in an ide drive with the scsi drive, Is this possible? If so how can I put the contents of the scsi drive on to the ide drive so that I can use the scsi for storage? I have not much clue about scsi and what is needed so forth. If I can do this and wipe the scsi drive will I need to reinstall drivers and so forth to make it work again? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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Old 09-27-2003, 11:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What I want to do is put in an ide drive with the scsi drive, Is this possible?
If what you mean is to connect the IDE drive to the SCSI card that is... Simply put... Impossible...

However, if you mean to use IDE on the IDE channel and a SCSI drive connected to a SCSI controller, that will not be a problem at all. I run my system that way... I have 1 SCSI drive with 4 IDE devices on the motherboard IDE controller and 3 other IDE hard drives on a PCI IDE controller card..



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If so how can I put the contents of the scsi drive on to the ide drive so that I can use the scsi for storage?
Use a program such as Norton Ghost to make a disk image of the OS on the SCSI drive and then do a restore to the new IDE disk. The reason I tell you to use a third-party utility to copy this is because simply copying all the files from the SCSI drive to the IDE drive will not make your OS bootable since the MBR will not be copied to the IDE hard disk.

If you plan on doing a new install, all this will not matter. Just make sure to set the boot sequance in your BIOS to boot from the IDE hard disk, not the SCSI drive and do a fresh install of the OS to the IDE hard disk...
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Hrm... Maybe said wrong or maybe it wont work. I will hook up the ide to the ide controller and leave the scsi on the scsi controller.
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Sweet, I have ghost v.5, I think what ill do is just run the 2 drives the way they are and just use the ide as storage and boot from the scsi that way I dont have to worry about cloning and so forth. Thanks a ton!
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Sorry about the confusion... I read your post again and I though I misunderstood your question and edited my post..

Norton ghost 5.0 is Norton Ghost 2002, right? Just not used to version number... If that's the case, it will work just fine under XP..
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Ok, So I hook up the ide drive, I put it to cable select and the computer sees it as primary, I want the scsi as the primary. So I set it to slave and the computer does not see it at all. Which way should I configure it so that the scsi is drive c and the ide is drive d? Thank you!
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You have to remember that SCSI is not like IDE where master and slave mode is used. It uses ID. It doesn't matter what you see at bootup or in the BIOS because it will have no reference to the SCSI drive...

What you need to do is make the SCSI drive you have installed as the boot drive by changing the Boot Sequence in the BIOS...

When you do a fresh install of Windows, you should unplug the IDE drive since it has more priority over drive lettering vs. SCSI.

Whenever I have to do a fresh install, I have to unplug my IDE drives to get drive letter "C" for the SCSI drive... After installing the OS and the SCSidrive has occupied drive "C", I connect the IDE drive back...
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I have tried that and I installed the os on the scsi drive and nothing on the ide, when i plug the ide back in it switches the scsi to d: then goes to a screen that says no os found. I tried to get into the bios but this bios is weird it only allows me to look at stuff but wont let me change it. It shows it like in a document. It is an old compaq deskpro where the bios is saved on part of the hd.
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