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Old 09-24-2003, 03:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New "Anti-Swap" CDs leave Linux in the Lurch

New Anti-Swap CD technology for MS Windows and Macintosh operating systems only; once again a new technology that fails to take Linux and opensource seriously, despite a growning number of users that now may even rival the number of Mac OS users. This will more than likely result in an "unoffical" opensource solution that will become a target of criticism and possibly litigation by the music industry.

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Old 09-24-2003, 03:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I;ve never even heard of that singer so I don't care. They don't even protect popular artists like Eneminem and Britney yet they are probaly the most downloaded. I bet in a couple of weeks someone will hack the code and make it possible to copy music normally.
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Old 09-24-2003, 03:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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And the ugly Big Brother part is:

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"This is the first generation that allows the kind of personal use that we have deemed appropriate," he says.
I think most people would prefer that the distinction of what is "appropriate use" stay within their control, not some Corporate interest, regardless of their choice of OS. I'm a self-supporting, self-policing ADULT and I don't want or need Big Brother to hold my hand and tell me what's right and wrong or that I'm "guilty until proven innocent". I am not and will not be held accountable for, or punished for, the wrong doings of others. If laws are meant to protect everyone then let's make sure they protect everyone, not just the Corporations.

For instance: I make 1:1 (no mp3's for me) backup copies of any and all $30.00+ imports/special editions/remasters, etc. that I purchase (to cheap and easily replaceable CD-R's) and play those rather than risk damaging or losing the valuable original CD. I prefer to have such risk management of my expensive CD collection within my care and control and can't for the life of me see where any record company or other interest has the legal or Constitutional authority to determine that I can't do that. I bought it, I own it, and what I do with it for my own personal use is nobody's business, IMO.

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Old 09-24-2003, 03:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I thought the whole point of opensource was the fact that it could be easily modified\customised by the end-user! That being the case ...you can't really hold the distributers liable for something they could not have foreseen and have no control over! If like M$ they try and release patches to "fix" their distro's and cripple music ripping, what is to stop client from simply removing\refusing to load the offending patch?

if you prefered version of Linux insists that you install something you don't want .....what is to stop you switching to another distro or creating a new one?
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I have to agree With JohnE. When Corporate America, whomever it may be, starts saying " AS we deem appropriate", we the common, everyday people are in for trouble. What happens when Corporate America can not agree on what standard to use as APPROPRIATE? I hate to harp on an old gripe of mine, but I believe appropriateness will probably depend on the Corporate bottom line.

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Its the artist/music company's right to encode or copy protect their CD's any way they see fit. And its the consumer's right to decide whether or not they want to buy these types of CD's. Simple as that.

The more controversial issue is whether the open source community has the right to develop software that will bypass these encoding and copy protection schemes. (and you know they will)
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Wait so r they saying that when u put the cd in your comp it tries to install a program on your comp?? That is stupid......... Hope somebody finds out how to crack the code......OOOPS did I say that??
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Lets see....... output from my stereo cd player ........ into my soundcard input jack....... through an encoder..... ahhhhhhhh no problem....








edit............ right ???? Don't know for sure...... I've never tried it, but it should work in theory.
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Old 09-24-2003, 04:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Its the artist/music company's right to encode or copy protect their CD's any way they see fit. And its the consumer's right to decide whether or not they want to buy these types of CD's. Simple as that.
Exactly! Let's just hope they clearly label (or are forced to) their products as containing this technology so that We The Consumers can make informed decisions before not purchasing. If there's no demand on the consumer side for this technology it will go the way of the Beta-cam format.
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Old 09-24-2003, 04:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Crouse, that is exactly what anyone could you. You don't even have to go that far. If they play on your computer, you can just use a program (heck, even "Sound Recorder") to record it to another file and save it as mp3.

What is even the POINT of this protection? It's 10x easier than previous ones.

Wait, what am I saying..... SHHHHH!! don't tell them.

*ahem* This is the best cd-protection I have heard about in along time!!!
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