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Old 09-15-2003, 08:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Outdoors Verisign adds wildcard DNS to .com and .net TLDs

What does that mean? Try going to a site that doesn't exist or simply ping a name that doesn't exist. That's way too much power in the hands of one company. I hope it doesn't last long

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Old 09-15-2003, 09:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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TLD? Top level domain?

Thanks for the info Golfcart - unfortunately I might need a bit more of an explanation.
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Old 09-15-2003, 10:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah TLD is Top Level Domain. That's what com, net, org etc are. Verisign is essentially making it so any .com or .net domain that is mistyped is resolved to sitefinder.verisign.com. It's like owning every domain that someone hasn't purchased yet. They could make a fortune off of the advertising and pay per click searches.

From a networking standpoint, it's just a really bad idea. For example, some spam blocking systems check to see if the domain a mail was sent from exists and if it doesn't, the mail is dropped. So much for that idea because every domain "exists" now.

I'm sure there are many more reasons why this is a bad idea.
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Old 09-16-2003, 07:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This is complete BS. They are abusing the position that they have been given to to manage the root servers.

I hope that ICANN will step up to the plate and get this yanked as well as Verisigns duties.

The problem with mail and this is one of the most effective ways of stopping bogus mail (spam) is making sure that the domain exists, so if someone says they are bob@dkfjdkfjdkjk.com it will be rejected because the domain is invalid hence the address.

Verisign has a history of sending out misleading domain renewal letters that switch your hosting to them and a number of other questionably practices.

Now, when you try to goto http://www.somenameIwant.com you will be sent to Verisign where you can (wonder of wonders) buy it from them even tho they don't own it, nobody does. This will mislead many people into thinking that they must buy it from Verisign.

This makes MS antics look Micky Mouse.

This may make it more clear what this is doing, try this with any jibberish address and you will get 64.94.110.11 where you should get nonexistant domain.
Code:
C:\Documents and Settings\mark>nslookup dkjfslkjdfklsdjf.com
Server:  thor.siliconjunkie.net
Address:  10.0.0.2

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    dkjfslkjdfklsdjf.com
Address:  64.94.110.11


C:\Documents and Settings\mark>nslookup www.dsdkfsdkfsdkjfdskj.com
Server:  thor.siliconjunkie.net
Address:  10.0.0.2

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    www.dsdkfsdkfsdkjfdskj.com
Address:  64.94.110.11


C:\Documents and Settings\mark>ping www.dskfjdsfkjdfs.com

Pinging www.dskfjdsfkjdfs.com [64.94.110.11] with 32 bytes of data:

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When did this happen? I just noticed this today. I first found out when resellerratings.com was down and I got redirected to that site finder. Is there a way to change it? I just want the old IE 404 not found error page, not this crap.
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Old 09-17-2003, 01:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I sure hope someone steps in here and does something about this. They'll make a killing on the advertising plus they get to use the domains for whatever they want until they are purchased!

I never did like VeriSign...

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[EDIT] the whole verisign thing seems to be down right now, jiberish names no longer bring up that stupid deal they have. plus I get no ICMP replys to the 64. addy.
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There is a petition ...

... one may choose to sign .

Arghhh#§$&!

CC.

Edit add: And ISC to Cut Off Site Finder  !
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Old 09-17-2003, 02:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: There is a petition ...

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... one may choose to sign .

Arghhh#§$&!

CC.

Edit add: And ISC to Cut Off Site Finder  !
I signed it! Hope you all do too.

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Old 09-17-2003, 03:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I just transfered 6 domains away from them
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I just transfered 6 domains away from them
wowa good thing to do!

I have always registered with devnic.com and will keep it that way from now on.

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