Why not make a .porn for all porn

[Dj-Icer]

Nobody cares anything about illegal and stuff like that, probably because there are no guidelines telling us or quote out about this sort of stuff. So we humans tends to do and to be to whatever they like. Like, Freedom of Choice. Without any hassle and restriction.
Like any other religion that I may know of, they have certain guidelines in which telling you the stuff you can do and the stuff you can't do. When this sort of problem comes, it may have not at all stated in the guidelines (the bible from all sorts of religion). So the arguement happens between our very own human theory against the guideline theory. And in the end, nobodys winning..or it doesn't matter . Because, what I think was that, in this new millenium, its like what is legal has been turn to illegal and what is illegal has turn to LEGAL. But as for we humans, we have moral to think (or compare) what is right and what isn't.
Some people have their own reasons why they're into 'porn' and stuff. We probably can advise them, but we can't change them. We may can control them, but we can't stop them.
So I think, through my little observation , guidelines are important. Sometimes guidelines restrict you to do something that out of your head, but it teaches you to be good and help you to stay out of your problems at bay, from a deep mess and confusion, especially in this new millenium

[KeithKman]

.porn would be a good file name.

[demonxxx]

Originally posted by gerald_weigel


The flaw with that statement is that this isn't about standards, it's about organization. I don't think one person here cares about making anything illegal (as far as this thread is concerned anyway), just catagorizing it so it's easier to find or not find, as the case may be. I've downloaded porn, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but that's not what tjis argument is about.

On that note, we might as well go about organizing the whole internet, .porn, .kids, .religion, .racist, .women, .men, .atheist, . well you get the picture. Everyone is going to find something offensive, and not want thier kids to see it even out of that group I made up above, do we section all of those out? Or should parents start being parents?

[tom0360]

It probably would be a good thing to have the internet well organized. As far as parents being parents. That is not even fair to say. Parents cannot monitor their kids 24/7 and even if they could, the kids would go nuts with constant supervision. It is not even just monitoring the kids because there is so many dishonest tricks being played by these same sites you people are defending to trick people into ending up on thier site as well as sending you spam of their filth. You can't block it all. You search for one thing and end up with 100 sites with misleading keywords that link to porn garbage. There is a problem with a over abundant amount of porn and filth on the web. I don't understand how people have become some unsensitized by it all. Why is it so hard to imagine coming up with a solution, not closing these sites down but placing them in a .adult domain that would increase the effectivness of filtering software greatly. Sure it would be inconvienent for a while for these adult sites that are now on .coms/.nets but something could be worked out to make it a more appealing idea to get them to move over after their domains expire. Laws are put into effect to encourage people to do the right thing. Sure some people disobey the laws, many are caught and fined or jailed. If a law like this was passed the legitimate adult sites would move to .adult without much hassle. It would be the riftraft that would drag out the transition.

[Siliconjunkie]

#1 problem. Who decides what is adult. Opinions vary widely and it is not fair to force someone to have a particular TDL with an obivious negative connotation because one group of people feel it should be there. .com is commercial, if they are selling a service then they are commercial, regardless of what they are selling.

There is simply no way to reasonably do any of this simply because opinions vary wildly.

[tom0360]

Siliconjunkie,

I agree there would be a very hard line to get people to agree on this type of proposed .adult and to what should be moved there.
I am not sure why though. A statue of a lady in a robe with her breasts showing is not to hard to tell apart from some girl sitting on a coffee table getting it by three guys. I think to many people try to hide behind art as an excuse. Sad that some people can't tell the difference. There is no reason if it includes any sexual act it could not be moved to a .adult area. Yes some of the actual art that does contain nudity would have to be decided if it is offensive or not. Who decides, same people who decide all our other laws. We do this all the time with everything, kids under 18 can't buy cigarettes, under 21 can't drink, under 18 can't serve in the military, contains nudity rated R, etc, etc. Why do people think the internet should be any different?

[tom0360]

I just wanted to say I do believe strongly in an individuals freedoms. I am not trying to suggest something that would be taking anyone's freedoms away. I was really just seeing if people felt that there might be some alternatives to what is already in place for seperating porn (mostly) from the regular internet. The idea would not have to hurt those that have porn sites up and running now. It could possibly prove to be helpful in the long run having there own domain extensions. It also could free up a lot of unwanted and unneeded junk on the regular .com/.net. Protecting children from this stuff should be the first concern, but there is also the fact that there are alot of people that just don't want that stuff coming into and taking over there systems with pop-up ads and replacing home pages and such. Plus theres the fact that if the internet continues to grow it iwill get harder and harder to locate what you want, when you want it without ending up getting something you don't want. Something should be done to organize it now while it still can be organized. Also from a business point of view it really is not good if someone trys to go to your website and ends up on a porn site that uses misspelled domain names to basically trick people into viewing thier sites, then pulls your e-mail and spams you with porn junk, changes your homepage to some porn page and infiltrates your system with pop-up ads. This last reason if none other really seems to make me think we need laws to regulate how the internet is operated and organized.

[demonxxx]

Originally posted by Siliconjunkie
#1 problem. Who decides what is adult. Opinions vary widely and it is not fair to force someone to have a particular TDL with an obivious negative connotation because one group of people feel it should be there. .com is commercial, if they are selling a service then they are commercial, regardless of what they are selling.

There is simply no way to reasonably do any of this simply because opinions vary wildly.

Exactly, and then further deciding what is offensive and whats not, what one person find to be offensive another person may not. The time and money spent on such a task would be better used offering after school activities for the kids to participate in or something.

[OuTpaTienT]

Initially I agree with the idea of separating smut into it's own top level domain, I like .xxx just to stick with the 3 character or less format. But I fail to understand exactly how it would help. Sure it might make their urls easier to identify both for us and for any blocking software, but unless there's a way to physically stop them, they'll just find ways around any barriers you attempt to put up. Just because we make them have a .xxx domain doesn't mean there can't be links to them from anywhere else on the web. Plus the sleazier of them will attempt to foil blocking software through multi-levels of redirects and domain name/IP masking. We could then try to get tougher and start passing "no porn" laws, but even then our laws only effect sites within our borders. And as a nation we don't have the wherewithal, the resources, nor the intelligence to even make a dent in the "war on drugs" how the hell do you think we'll fair in a "war on sex", probably the most addictive, widespread "drug" known to the human race.

And where is it that you guys are "accidentally" running into all this porn? The only porn I see is porn I intended to see. I don't know that I "accidentally" run into much porn on the net. Maybe see a distasteful banner ad here or there, but if it's distasteful enough then I simply don't visit the offending web site any longer. Simple.

Where else do you run into unwanted porn? Maybe your email box? Putting all the adult sites in a .xxx domain isn't going to stop them from sending you spam now is it? But before you insist on anything too radical, why not start with common sense email knowledge applied right within your applications. What you see in your incoming emails is very much up to you. And I'm not even referring to filtering out spam. Simply disable HTML in your email client. Since I've done that I've not seen a single offending appendage or body part unknowingly. The email system was never intended to display dynamic HTML content anyways, so turn it off. TEXT ONLY. If you're a die-hard computer geek (especially old-skool) then you know email is text, period.

The 10 or 20 spam emails I get each week that are probably porn related don't offend me in the slightest. They usually have deceiving yet non-offensive titles like "Hey buddy, need your help", or "Hi so-n-so, Lisa here.", or similar generic phrases. If there's even a doubt about it being a legit email I can safely open the mail and view it's contents. If it's porn spam them what I see is nothing. No images of nude people or donkeys and midgets or nothing. Because HTML needs to be enabled to display images. So when there's nothing there, or a jumble of HTML code, then I know to delete it.

(Side issue: How do I enjoy so FEW spam emails? I use Yahoomail as my main email client. Yahoo does a remarkable, no, a REMARKABLE job of filtering out spam. I am not exaggerating when I say that my Yahoomail bulk mail folder (essentially their spam filter) filters out 300-600+ spam emails a week for me! I don't ever even see it. One click and it's all gone. The 10 to 20 I referred to are just the ones that slip by the filter. And remember, even those are non offensive because without HTML they can't show me any images. And there's usually no offensive text in the messages because the spammers are intentionally trying to slip past people's filtering software. )

I'm all for protecting our kids (especially young kids, 12 and under) from some of the smutty crap that's out here. I think it'd be ideal if websites were sort of like the magazine isle at a bookstore…with the majority of material freely viewable and accessible to all and with the pornographic stuff also freely accessible to adults but not out in plain view, either behind the counter or in a opaque sealed bag or something. But tell me, how do we achieve a similar situation on the net? Certainly just corralling all the smut peddlers into a .xxx domain ain't gonna do squat, no pun intended.

[samwichse]

Well said.

Anyone who says having an "xxx" domain is censorship must be driven mad by the fact that a 17 year old isn't allowed into an R-rated movie. I mean, come on, no one said anyone would be restricted from typing whatever.xxx into their browser, but some 8 year old isn't going to get redirected this way by misspelling disney.com.

To the parent:
Your kid is caught at a .com porn site, but he says it was by accident, who do you believe?
Your kid is caught at a .xxx site, where's the excuse now ?