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Old 09-14-2003, 06:15 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Until you get out into the "real world", living on your own, paying your own way etc..you simply have no weight to your arguments.
No weight? Hrm.. there are some 18 year olds I trust more than a xx year old. Some people hit a full maturity in their teens, yet others (older) have yet to reach that point. The 'real world' does more harm than good sometimes
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Back to the original point of this thread. I'm uncertain that an ".xxx" domain (or similar) would actually do much. A global Internet is impossible to control. "Laws" simply cannot be effective to people who disregard the laws in the first place. After all, many adult sites should be restricting their content based on age, but simply do not do so.

Furthermore, an ".xxx" top level domain will not necessarily restrict redirects (such as disniy.com redirecting to a 'legal' disniy.xxx.)

I suppose an ".xxx" domain (or similar) would have some impact, which in itself might be worth it. The topic is very complex. Thanks for raising it, tom0360.

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Old 09-14-2003, 06:26 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I'm only 26, not too much older than Telexen. At 18 I would have thought much the same as him, in fact even to around 22 or 23. Once you are married and have a child, a lot of growing up happens quickly. I am able to see how narrow minded I was, how ignorant of so many aspects of life. In the last 3 or 4 years, I've learned a lot, imagine what the next 10 or 15 will bring.
Good topic, nice idea, but the reality is it's really not plausible.
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Old 09-14-2003, 07:15 PM   #33 (permalink)
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.xxx seems like a great idea. With top level domain names like .com .net and .org being snapped up, it makes sense that a non-deceptive and descriptive domain be used for people who would like to control their own viewing. Think of it as truth in advertising, and freedom from being forced to see smut you find repulsive or damaging to your kids. By the same token, why not establish a domain name ".kid" for kids, with strict penaltiies for sending adult content to those sites or to anyone with that kind of e-mail address? E.g. relegate virtual smut to the virtual bookstore, and protect kids as you would protect a Day Care center or elementary school.

The First Amendment protects the Freedom of speech. Commercial speech, however, has a lower threshhold of protection (noone has the right to enter your home and shout 'buy Armor Hotdogs!'), obscenity can and is regulated, commercially false advertising, slander, libel can be punished and even political speech can be limited to reasonable time and place.

So while there is a proper time and place for smut and advertising, the First Amendment is not a blanket protection for those who seek to inundate the rest of the world with their SPAM and smut. Europe is in the process of adopting 'opt in' advertisng rules, and there is no constitutional reason why we cannot do the same.

As some of you have commented, getting around those who insist on pumping this junk out, particularly from overseas, makes something like this a goal, albeit not easily achieved.
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Old 09-14-2003, 08:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Kopfjaeger... I like the idea of the .kids domain, and I see a lot of truth in your post...

Telexen... It's true that there are 18 year olds that know about life and how things work... sadly, you're not one of them...
I'm 24, and I'm not saying that I'm mature in any way, but when it comes to kids, and exposing them to porn, it's not something that any sane person would want.

Honestly, with all the junk mail and all the rubbish that sites re-direct to, and the copious amount of junk mail that everyone gets, how many people REALLY takes notice of them??? Are there really that many?

In terms of a .adult domain... it is good in theory... but in practice there would be too many things that needs to be resolved in order for this to be actioned. Is there really a way of governing the internet? maybe they should fine people who spam and re-direct from harmless sites to porn-sites the way that they are fining people for using kazaa...

Well that's my $0.02
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Old 09-14-2003, 08:55 PM   #35 (permalink)
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i know, wat about .cum?.com/.cum
.net/.nads
.org/ well, uhh .orga?
i dont know!
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Old 09-14-2003, 09:08 PM   #36 (permalink)
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i think that a .adult would be a great idea. and i'm sure that the could prohibit porn and redirects on .com sites... as far as i know i can't just go register me.edu (or can i? i am not sure) but if they do restrict what can have a .edu, why not a .com (once again, sorry if i am wrong...)
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Old 09-14-2003, 09:21 PM   #37 (permalink)
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It MIGHT work, but I dont think trying to force website to switch domains is giong to be the answer. Only way it would be feasible is to grandfather all current sites out of it, which would leave what, a few billion? And even after that, like i said before, waste of tax payer money to enforce it.

I also think it could have a backlash of effects. Since sites would be segregated more from the rest of the web, I think they would work even harder to get advertising out to the people on more and more sites, thus making things worse than they are now.
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Old 09-14-2003, 09:22 PM   #38 (permalink)
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What do u actually want? To ban porn sites? ...Now..? I'm not quite sure about what's 'porn' but I describe it as adult sites. Wicked adult sites.
Sometimes I do think porn sites should be ban for the sake of later generations. The usually thing that we can do is blocking them from the kids under age. Netgranny, cybernetting what i know of, can block all sorts of porn materials.
I almost accidentally saying "porn-flakes" last time...
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its not gonna happen for 2 reasons.......1) not economically feasible and 2) lack of juristiction. would be nice though........nice to dream..........not nice to have to live with dream gone wrong (read communism)

BTW: nice avatar DJ-Icer.....thats the real reason of this post...........to say nice avatar
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Old 09-14-2003, 10:47 PM   #40 (permalink)
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why would you want to do something that acknowledges this as important?

also, I dont like the direction society is headed in. if things continue to go as they are i shudder to think what the next few generations will think is nothing more than "art"

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