Damn you network neighborhood!

[RedFury]

I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get my 2 computers to be recognized in Network Neighborhood!

I'm such a LAN newbie that if my Belkin router didn't automatically set everything up via CDROM, my wife still wouldn't have internet access on her system

I've gone through the windows( 98 ) help file 3X and still can't figure out what the heck it is that I'm doing wrong/ not doing at all/right

I've got no computer icons in my Network, no printer, no nothing! All I wanna do is share the stinkin' printer with the other computer. Is it suppose to be this hard, really ?!

The system with the printer unfortunately is my back up for now 33mhz IBM with a SMC 1211tx NIC and the other system is an ECS KS57a wit the built in SIS NIC card. I've got a Belkin broadband Router and I've written down all my IP addresses, etc from my router information page ( via internet set up ).

Can one of you Guru's of File sharing give a poor moron a second of your time so I can stop pulling what's left of my hair outta my head?

[muno]

What os are you excatly running on that 33mhz computer???

Connecting to a shared printer is fairly easy once you've established connection between the two computers.
(verify this with pinging the ip address of the opposite computer)

Then you just go to printer manager and click add printer, select network printer and write down the address of the shared printer, like this -> \\<printer_sharer>\<share_name_of_shared_printer>

If permissions are set correctly, it will create the printer on your computer.

The router should act as a nat server too, distributing ip addresses like 192.168.x.y/24 or some other private network.
Usually they start like this -> Router:192.168.0.1 and consequtive computers are 192.168.0.1+n
-M

[squeech]

The first thing you need to do is make sure that the computers are on the same workgroup. In Win98, this means going into the network control panel (or right-click -> properties on network neighborhood), selecting the identification tab and entering a name for your workgroup (the default is just WORKGROUP). Make sure all computers on the network have this same value.

As long as the computers have an internet connection, you know the router is seeing all of the machines...which is a good sign

Now, also in the network control panel you need to find the "File and Print Sharing..." button and click it. In the box that comes up, check both boxes ("share my files" and "print to other printers")

Just for good measure, check the Access control tab and makes sure that "share-level" is selected.

The computer should ask you to reboot after all these changes are made.

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The above steps should get the computers to actually SHOW UP in Network Neighborhood. Now, if you want to share files just right-click the file/folder you want to share -> select sharing... -> share the resource and give it a name.

If you want to share a printer, the easiest way is to goto "add printer" in the printers folder and add a network printer instead of a local printer, using the notation that muno gave you.

If you need more info...do feel free to ask!

[Bones1]

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Way too slow for these guys. But I'll leave my original message


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Hi RedFury.

I'll try to help you out here. Note I'm going to assume a few things but just bear with me.


I'm assuming----

- Your router is giving your machines the IP address automatically through it's built in DNS server correct? IE you don't have to manually put them in like 192.168.?.?

- You have the print sharing enabled (in the network properties) on the computer that the printer is on.

- You are on the same workgroup for all the computers.

- On the network logon screen on startup you are clicking "Ok" instead of "Cancel".

- You don't have any software firewall programs running on any computer.

- You can access the internet with your old 33MHz computer.

If any of these point I made isn't true get back to me and I will try to think of something different.

Jim

[RedFury]

Well, for one thing...Du-OH! It's 333mhz, not 33mhz

1. both computers are running Kerio Personal firewall, which asks for permissions ( learning curve )..I suppose I could turn them off since the Router has a built in firewall.

2.Network logon screen? Since we are both the only users on each machine, we don't have the logon screens at startup ( win98 )

3. Router does everything automatically. Although it doesn't show the other computer in the DCHP client list, which I may have to run the software that came with the router and "add computer".


We had problems today with both systems not getting a connection to the internet, and I had to reset the modem. Obviously I'm up and running.

I suspect I'm going to need to enable user logon's on both computers first and foremost, huh?

[S.D.Willie]

2.Network logon screen? Since we are both the only users on each machine, we don't have the logon screens at startup ( win98 )

not in front of a 98 machine but right click network neighborhood, go to properties, change primary logon (or similar) to microsoft network logon (or similar), not " windows logon" then reboot. you should get the netwok login screen sceen next time.

[RedFury]

Alright, I give up. I can hit each computer if one is set as a diagnostic server with MSDos ( net diag ) but I cannot communicate to either in windows. I searched through all of Microsofts knowledge base and ran through everything I hadn't tried already...I cannot get either system to show up on the network at all.

Like I said earlier. Damn Network Neighborhood to HELL!

[John Prophet]

Right click each computers "network neighborhood" ...click properties...and tell us what is in them..and what is the primary logon.

And DEFINITELY turn off whatever firewall you mentioned..at least till you get this straight.

JP

[Auswak]

You do not need to enable user logon.
Do the following for both computers

-Go to My Computer
-Control Panel
-Network icon
-Click on the Identification tab at the top
-Make sure the Workgroup name is the same for both computers
-Give each computer its own Computer Name

-Click on the Configuration tab
-Scroll down till you see the TCP/IP (machines Network Card)
-Highlight it with one left click
-select properties
-IP Address tab will come up first
You need to have Obtain IP Address Automatically selected
-Click on WINS Configuration tab
You need to have Disable WINS Resolution selected
-Click on Gateway tab
This should have nothing in it, if there is anything in Installed Gateways window remove it
-Click on DNS Configuration tab
You need to have Disable DNS selected
-Click on Bindings tab
Hopefully you have
Client for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft Family Logon
File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

Again you need to do the above on both computers.

After restart if that does not show the 2 computers in Network Neighborhood, then there is probably incorrect settings on your router.

To then share the printer you need to have the Printers Drivers on each computer.

The computer that does not have the printer connected to it, you need to do the "Add Printer" wizard.

But first you need to have your Network configured correctly before trying to install a shared printer.

Keep us posted

[Siliconjunkie]

Take off the firewall. I would bet a nickle it is the source of your headaches.