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08-19-2003, 11:17 PM
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PCI vs AGP, is AGP NEEDED??
I am working on a comp...has a PC chips, or amptron, or whatever, "747" motherboard.
So it has supposedly 8mb agp on board...but the reviews on the agp say it sucks and it will only do DX6 stuff etc.
So I was thinking there was an agp slot..so I talked the lady into a vid card upgrade....she said she tried to play a game, some sort of kindergarten kids game, but the screen would just go blank.
Anyway, I do have a 16Mb PCI card....is that going to be better than crummy 8mb onboard AGP?
The pci card prolly only does DX7..lol.
But in general, are there some, even basic games, that absolutely NEED agp to work?? Or can they get by with pci video?
We arent talking FPS games, we are talking kindergarten type education progs...but I know some of them have decent graphics nowadays.
So will the 16M pci be better than the 8mb agp onboard??
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08-19-2003, 11:20 PM
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Ya the 16mb would own. I did the same thing with my moms compaq with 8mb and my pci voodoo16mb.
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08-19-2003, 11:27 PM
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Im a little worried, lol...cuz she bought a used comp...she just wanted me to install her new printer, her c:drive was totally full, aand the dude had just thrown in another drive..so it was messing her up.
Anyway, now I talked her into RAM, cpu, and now vid card upgrades, lol.
So I am hoping it all works out right.
She is going from 64M, P2-333,cheap8m onboard to 192M,P3-500,16M pci vid...plus a fresh OS install, dx9 etc.
Am hoping she doesnt go buy a game that somehow NEEDS agp texturing or whatever. (or dx8 graphics)..but I think she will be buying mainly the Pentium66mhz and above type, lol.
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08-19-2003, 11:29 PM
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well on my geforce4 420pci i could play ANY game.
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08-20-2003, 08:02 PM
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I'd think that a 16MB video card would work fine for most games out there that she'd be playing on that computer, but maybe at a low resolution to fit all the textures into memory.
Whatever it is, though, if it's got 16MB HAS to be better than the onboard video on that board ( http://www.pcchips.com.tw/M747.html)
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08-20-2003, 08:10 PM
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I think it would be better then the onboard. If you had a 16MB AGP that would have been EVER better. But the PCI should do.
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08-21-2003, 03:00 AM
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The onboard AGP chip is an SiS 6326, a 1997 unit. Drivers support DX7 and (supposedly) DX8. However, given its age, it of course is dead slow by today's standards.
16-MByte cards will be just as choking on today's games, 64 MB is minimum now, 128 MBytes recommended.
Fit a Visiontek Radeon 9100 PCI, this is the best PCI solution out there.
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08-21-2003, 03:01 AM
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Oh, but given proper installation of all drivers, the onboard unit should be good enough for that kindergarten stuff. Pay www.sis.com a visit, and grab the latest AGP and 6326 VGA drivers. And do not install DX9, stay with DX7 or DX8 depending on which 6326 driver you chose.
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08-21-2003, 05:37 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Urban_Squrill
well on my geforce4 420pci i could play ANY game. | Yeah right. I have the exact same card and I can't play "any" game there is. I could probably run any game but the framerates would be absolutly horrible on the newer games. Your eyes must be messed up so you don't notice lag.  NEVER GET THAT CARD!!!!!!!!!
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08-21-2003, 12:41 PM
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What kind of video card is it? Something like a Rage 128?
I think the PCI card would probably be a better choice since the memory wouldn't be shared. I'm not a fan of shared memory, myself.
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