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Old 08-17-2003, 02:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Quakecon 2003: or how i won a Geforce FX 5900 Ultra

I went to Quakecon 2003 planning on getting some good LANage in. I got much more than i bargained for...a FREE BFG 256mb Geforce FX 5900 Ultra!

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Nvidia had a booth setup and if you fill out this survey they gave you a Doom 3 t-shirt. So yesterday i took the survey, of course,to get the free t-shirt and I promptly put it on so i could feel 1337 like the hundreds of other people wearing the same shirt . it was actually a really cool shirt, so i decided to wear it again today. So there i am playing some counter-strike and this lady wearing an nvidia shirt comes over and taps me on the shoulder. i take of my headphones and she says "you just won a gf fx 5900 ultra." i had forgotten that the purpose of the shirts was that nvidia was going to randomely pick someone out wearing the shirt to give them a card!

i'm on cloud 9 right now.

i don't have any benchmarks at the moment but i'm downloading 3dmark 03 and 01 right now and i'll bench this card in the morning. also attempting to get my hands the doom 3 alpha again to see how it looks now (if Id asks...i'm downloading the E3 movies...yeah...that's it).

Enough about the card.

I've gotten a lot of little snipets about Doom 3 from a lengthy Q&A session with various Id guys:
A) The multiplayer is still limited to 4 players, despite the rumors going around that say otherwise.
B) The limit of players is simply a definition in the portion of code that is released with the game (i.e. you can mod it very easily to allow any number of players).
C) Their ESTIMATE for the minimum system requirements is currently hovering around a 1GHz proc w/ 256mb ram and a gf2. So all of you that are saying you will need a dx9 card at LEAST are totally bogus.
D) There will be no CTF with multiplayer. there is going to be deathmatch, team deathmatch, last man standing, and another variant of the sort i can't remember.
E) The Mac and linux versions will not be released simultaneously with the PC version and they didn't say how far behind it would be. but i don't think it will be too long because they do have running versions of Doom 3 on both platforms.
F) Modding this game will be unlike anything we've seen before:
1) Id will package the SOURCE for every single map. i.e. you can load it up in their editor and see every level, and how they did everything
2) The new editor allows for direct imports from Maya and Lightwave, no conversion is necessary.
3) The editor is actually a part of the Doom3 executable, and is launched by typing /editor in the console. This allows for some very cool things like real-time rendering of the map within the editor using the doom3 engine.

enough about Doom 3

Id announced a challenge...beat the Id team at Q3 Team arena and each person wins a brand new alien-ware machine. The first 4 teams all lost 10-0. A team actually did win tho later on (i have NO idea how it happened...although i think fatality might have been on that team...i know he was there and i heard a rumer he took up Id's challenge, not sure tho).

If you guys are big fans of WWII FPS then Call of Duty looks like a really good game. it seems to me to be a combination of DoD, MOHAA, and BF1942.

Also they handed out free Ratpadz to those in the BYOC. Basically this is a mousepad that is unbelievable for gaming. it actually increases an optical mouse' precision. it has a low-friction surface, and is large (good for low-sensitivity mouse settings). if you can afford one (415-$20) then i would HIGHLEY recommend getting one

I already can't wait till QuakeCon 2004!

ok enough rambling...time for sleep.

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Old 08-17-2003, 02:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ah very cool! Congrats! Good information about Doom3 as well!
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Old 08-17-2003, 03:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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w00t!! hope that geforce is really so good as they say! gonna get one in 6 months, i hope it will be cheaper then

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Re: Quakecon 2003: or how i won a Geforce FX 5900 Ultra

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C) Their ESTIMATE for the minimum system requirements is currently hovering around a 1GHz proc w/ 256mb ram and a gf2. So all of you that are saying you will need a dx9 card at LEAST are totally bogus
Not exactly, Minimum requirements companies give are always WAY off. To show you what I mean, let me read what the requirements for Half-Life are.
-Pentium 133mhz
-24mb ram

That's rather strange because I have a Celeron 500 with a 4mb ATI Rage which can barely hold the game at over 40FPS when in the lowest resolution at the default color which is only 16bit. A P1 would NEVER be able to run this game.

Look at BF1942
-800mhz P3 or Athlon
-256mb ram
-64mb video card

My AthlonXP 1700+ (1466mhz) with GeForce FX5200 and 1gb of ram has a hard time with this game at 800 x 600 (second lowest res) with medium detail on. There is no way in hell a P3 can run this game unless it has like a GeForce FX 5900 video card. Another weird thing is that 256mb of ram is not enough.. BF1942 itself takes over 400mb of ram; combine that with windows and even 512mb of ram isn't enough. I'll take a screenshot of windows saying it takes 400mb of ram if you want me to.

Doom3 is going to be a hog. Double the recommended requirements and you'll get rough numbers for how fast your computer must be. 2ghz with GF4 Ti or better.
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ok...just benched it with 3dmark03 and got a 5155, so i'm pretty happy considering i only have a 4x AGP mobo and 256mb ram. Also i haven't had a chance to tweak it yet. But i am sooo pleased with this card so far. and it doesn't sound like a vacuum cleaner
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Not exactly, Minimum requirements companies give are always WAY off. To show you what I mean, let me read what the requirements for Half-Life are.
-Pentium 133mhz
-24mb ram

That's rather strange because I have a Celeron 500 with a 4mb ATI Rage which can barely hold the game at over 40FPS when in the lowest resolution at the default color which is only 16bit. A P1 would NEVER be able to run this game.
I've run Half-Life on a P166MMX with 32mb and a 2mb Matrox Mystique and windows 97 (95 OSR2). It ran fine, up to 800x600. At 1280x1024 it sometimes skipped a few frames. Maybe you just had a screwy system.
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My AthlonXP 1700+ (1466mhz) with GeForce FX5200 and 1gb of ram has a hard time with this game at 800 x 600 (second lowest res) with medium detail on. There is no way in hell a P3 can run this game unless it has like a GeForce FX 5900 video card. Another weird thing is that 256mb of ram is not enough.. BF1942 itself takes over 400mb of ram; combine that with windows and even 512mb of ram isn't enough. I'll take a screenshot of windows saying it takes 400mb of ram if you want me to.
I have a similar setup. XP1700 with 512mb ram. Radeon 32mb SDR (original one, before they started naming them with numbers) and I can run the likes of GTA3/Vice city with full detail and 1024x768. When I overclock it to 183/183 and the CPU to 1.6 I can run it 1280x1024. Don't know how that compares to BF1492. I can't be bothered buying it as I rarely (once or twice a month) boot into windows.
Originel: Great news on the card, congratz. Thanks for the news on Doom 3 as well. Too bad they're going to release the Linux version seperatley. Hopefully you won't have to buy it twice.
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hehe, congrats...now would you be willing to sell that GF FX hehe, j/k...i can already see it is gonna be ya new baby
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I cant even imagine the complexity of modding a game like DOOM III. It makes me want to cry.
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Old 08-17-2003, 03:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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nice one, i'd have prefered an 9800 pro, but, the fx is still a very, very nice card, congrats mate.
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I am here stuck with a 64mb while you have 256
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