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Old 08-10-2003, 07:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Outdoors DNS problems

About 2 months ago I helped build a website that I continue to maintain. It is hosted by www.vskgamingservers.com and the website is www.uzaclan.com. When going to uzaclan, I have been experiencing server not found / dns errors. This has been happening for about a month now. When this happens, other people from around the country and overseas can still get there with no problems. I did a tracert, ping, and used ping plotter - all could not resolve the address.

I have found that sometimes when I can get to uzaclan, I can't get to vsk, vice versa, and sometimes neither of them. Yesterday I could get to uzaclan, but not vsk. While running ping plotter, I noticed the first hop (10.66.192.1) to vsk's ip started suffering some packet loss. This approached and stayed at 100% (see screen cap on my other web site)

http://courses.westshore.cc.mi.us/Sp...s/icannjpg.jpg

About 5 minutes later, I could not access that ip at all, as well as uza or vsk. This usually occurs for about 2 hrs, sometimes less sometimes more.

As you can see from the .jpg, the first hop is to a name server. I have sent an email to res-ip@iana.org but it is too early for a response. I called my isp (Chartermi) and after 1hr 19 min, I talked to steve. Steve didn't know what the term ping referred to. He had never heard of the program ping plotter, and he sure didn't know what the heck a tracert was. Needless to say, no help there.

If anyone can help here I would really appreciate it.

The email for me here is wrong... I usually use Incognito@uzaclan.com, but since I can't get there that won't do much good. If you need to get to me I do use hotmail - twj915@hotmail.com. Otherwise I will check back frequently.

Thanks,

Terry

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Old 08-11-2003, 12:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The #1 problem is that it is a private IP. 10. is not routable on the internet. Note the description in your whois "blackhole" What name server is giving you that?

2 things come to mind

1st- You are running a DNS that THINKS it is autoritative for that domain and isnt.

2nd- They have some DNS sync issues. 1 is giving out correct info, the other is giving out the bad info. Depends on which you hit.

DNS poisioning is possible, but not real likely.
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Old 08-11-2003, 07:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the www.uzaclan.com has DNS entries provided by NS1.vskwehosting.com and NS2.vskwebhosting.com ( per http://reports.internic.net/cgi/whoi...om&type=domain )

Querying NS1.vskwehosting.com for www.uzaclan.com returns 66.165.90.253

Querying NS2.vskwehosting.com for www.uzaclan.com returns with "No response from server"

When using http://66.165.90.253 I always get page not found.

When using http://www.uzaclan.com sometimes I get the website, sometimes I don't. In both cases I check the IP returned for www.uzaclan.com and they are the same. That leads me to believe the problem lies with vks's servers.
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Old 08-11-2003, 09:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I concur with DVNT1. The problem is on the ISP/Hosting servers. your unable to hit the sites with the IP address as they are obviously using hostheaders to allow mulitple sites to use a single IP address (thats not where the problem is) but they are having major issues with their dns servers from what I can see in testing
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Old 08-11-2003, 03:16 PM   #5 (permalink)
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SJ,

This is being reported by my linksys ethernet router DNS: 24.247.23.40 and 24.247.23.39

Those should be Chartermi's Domain Name servers right? And that is what is first checked whenever you enter a url? Why is that 10.66.192.1 coming up first then?

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How did you query vskwebhosting's NS2 and NS1 for www.uzaclan.com. (I want to show that to their tech support)
sidenote: I've been one of bills friends for 3+ years now.

Mntsnow,

Thanks that sounds like something I might be able to take care of (hopefully)

Thanks for your responses guys,

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Old 08-11-2003, 03:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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It does look like ns1 is completely borked and ns2 not answering.

There really isnt anything to take care of for what Mtsnow said. It's standard hosting practice.

Here is what I found with a bit of nslookuping, differs a bit from DVNT1s findings, but they may be doing work on it.

> set type=ns
> uzaclan.com
Server: 10.0.0.2
Address: 10.0.0.2#53

Non-authoritative answer:
uzaclan.com nameserver = ns2.vskwebhosting.com.
uzaclan.com nameserver = ns1.vskwebhosting.com.

Authoritative answers can be found from:
ns2.vskwebhosting.com internet address = 66.165.90.254
ns1.vskwebhosting.com internet address = 66.165.90.253
> server 66.165.90.254
Default server: 66.165.90.254
Address: 66.165.90.254#53
> www.uzaclan.com
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> server NS1.vskwehosting.com
nslookup: Couldn't find server 'NS1.vskwehosting.com': Name or service not known
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Quote:
Originally posted by Incognitotj
...How did you query vskwebhosting's NS2 and NS1 for www.uzaclan.com. (I want to show that to their tech support)...
In a W2k/XP command prompt window run:

nslookup
server ns1.vskwebhosting.com
www.uzaclan.com
exit

nslookup
server ns2.vskwebhosting.com
www.uzaclan.com
exit


btw, siliconjunkie's post also showed the commands he used, the typed commands are shown after the ">"

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Or for some other easy DNS tools just check out http://www.dnsstuff.com/
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I still have the problem, but I have found a way to circumvent it. I enter vsk's ns ip's in network connections as the dns... works so far

Thanks for the help, and the command prompt info.

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Old 08-12-2003, 04:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
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speaking of DNS type web tools, here's a good site that will test using many different DNS servers so you can get a well rounded idea of what's seen across the Internet... http://www.mob.net/~ted/tools/index.html
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