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08-02-2003, 06:38 AM
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Booting with RAID
Hi there! I have a bit of a weird problems with my setup! I decided to install 2 maxtor 120gb sate drives and set them up as MODE STRIPE and optimized for performance! I had windows XP on my c drive, and decided I didnt want to format this drive until I knew everything was ok with the raid setup! anyways! I had to disconnect this drive to allow me to install windows XP on the raid setup! everything went ok until i connected my c-drive back up! windows would no longer boot from my raid drive! the only way I can get my raid drive to boot into windows XP is if I disconnect my c drive which is master on the primary ide channel! I have also formated this drive! but if left connected! windows will not boot from my raid drive! anyone have any ideas or theorys on how to resolves this issue?
SETUP
MOBO-Chaintech, zenith 7njs
CPU-athlon 2.4ghz
mem-1ghx
video-Gainward Ge-force 4 Ti4800se 128mb ddr
storage-Maxtor 120gb ata133 on primary master IDE channel
storage-Western Digital 80gb ata100 on primary slave ide channel
storage-2x maxtor 120gb sate drives on raid channel
storage-Pioneer 106 dvd writer on secondary master ide channel
storage-mistumi 32x write cdr on secondary slave ide channel
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08-02-2003, 12:36 PM
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Go into your BIOS and adjust your boot order.
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08-02-2003, 03:46 PM
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I tried that! when I select scsi as first boot device! it just hangs and does nothing! also tried selecting first boot device as hd1, then hd2 etc!
as I said in my previous post! if I hook my old c-drive back up which still has windows xp installed on it! it boots up fine with the raid drives!
I'm beggining to think I might be as well to stick with this setup and just have the raid setup for xtra storage!
I'm quite new to raid! so I dont know if there is any pros to having the operating system installed on the raid drive??
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08-02-2003, 06:22 PM
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Well, if you have Windows installed on the array, then your computer will boot to the first boot device it encounters. Your BIOS *should* have an option to boot from the array, could be that 'boot from SCSI' entry is it, but regardless it seems to be checking the primary IDE channel first. If you could make that drive a slave on that channel you might be able to boot from the array, otherwise I'd not worry about installing Windows to RAID. Striping (RAID 0) is not very worthwhile because while you get the storage capacity of both drives, your speed only increases maybe 10%, plus if one drive fails you've lost all the data striped over both drives. I'd install Windows to either your Maxtor or your WD (whichever you feel like making the master) and use the SATA drives in a RAID 1 array. You'd only have 120GB of storage in the array, but it would all be backed up to the other drive  | |
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08-03-2003, 03:44 PM
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yeah! I know what your saying! problem is! I already have my western digital 80gb drive set up as slave on that channel! so I'm just wondering if the same thing will happen if I swap the two drive round making the maxtor slave and the w/digtal master!
anyways! I think your right about the bootup drive! but I'll give I'll try swapping the ide drives around to see what happens!
thanks for your help by the way! it has been appreciated!
I'll keep you posted if I come up with a solution for this one!
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08-08-2003, 01:09 PM
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Hi, i've been having very similar problems. Seems even if you set everything up to boot from raid, if windows sees any type of IDE drive on the primary ide, it tries to put some files there, or expects to read from there when booting. (ntdetect, ntldr, boot.ini). I swapped my two IDE cables around so my two CDRs were on IDE0 and my fixed disks on IDE1 and now everything is working OK.
Dave.
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08-08-2003, 03:31 PM
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I have seagate 120gig on sata channel 1.Western digital on ide channel 1 but is a slave running from Pioneer master.LiteonCDRW as master on ide channel 2.N o raid set up
Bios settings
standed Cmos features
IDE PRIMARY Liteon IDE PRIMARY Slave(NONE) IDE SECONDARY MASTER Pioneer AO5.IDE SECONDARY SLAVE western Digital
Advanced Bios Features
First Boot-Floppy,Second Boot-SCSI,Third Boot-NONE
SATA/RAID/SCSI boot Order SATA
Intergrated peripherals
Onboard H/W serial ATA Enabled,Serial ATA Function Base
the only problem i have is i can not use pwr Quest drive image to make a backup or restore one in windows using the pwr quest program only if i take out the caddy drive i can use the floppy boot discs with the caddy drive in thoughany ideas?
Gigabyte Motherboard GA-7N400 PRO
ATHLON 2500+ XP CPU, NVIDIA GeForce FX5200,Western Digital20 gig IDE Hardrive, segate barracuda 120gig SATA Hardrive, Liteon 52x24x52 CDRW, Pioneer AO5 DVD writter
DDR memory 2 kingston 256 DDR400, Tt Volcano 11 Fan
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08-08-2003, 03:34 PM
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Re: Booting with RAID
Quote: Originally posted by bri2366
Hi there! I have a bit of a weird problems with my setup! I decided to install 2 maxtor 120gb sate drives and set them up as MODE STRIPE and optimized for performance! I had windows XP on my c drive, and decided I didnt want to format this drive until I knew everything was ok with the raid setup! anyways! I had to disconnect this drive to allow me to install windows XP on the raid setup! everything went ok until i connected my c-drive back up! windows would no longer boot from my raid drive! the only way I can get my raid drive to boot into windows XP is if I disconnect my c drive which is master on the primary ide channel! I have also formated this drive! but if left connected! windows will not boot from my raid drive! anyone have any ideas or theorys on how to resolves this issue?
SETUP
MOBO-Chaintech, zenith 7njs
CPU-athlon 2.4ghz
mem-1ghx
video-Gainward Ge-force 4 Ti4800se 128mb ddr
storage-Maxtor 120gb ata133 on primary master IDE channel
storage-Western Digital 80gb ata100 on primary slave ide channel
storage-2x maxtor 120gb sate drives on raid channel
storage-Pioneer 106 dvd writer on secondary master ide channel
storage-mistumi 32x write cdr on secondary slave ide channel | I'm still new to raid so I hope this helps. Itried to setup the way you did except I use Win 2k. I ended up backing up the stuff I wanted to keep then used WD Data life guard and wipped my hdd's. I started from scratch. Every thing went very smooooth.
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MOBO- Via P4PB 400-FL
CPU- P4 2.4ghz 533FSB
Mem-generic 2.5 gb PC 2100
Video- eVGA 4X
Pioneer DVD ROM
Pioneer DVD RW
Zip 100
Zip750
Promise FastTrak Tx2000 Raid card
4 WD 400BB 40gb ea.
Raid setting, 0, Performance, (stripe)
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08-09-2003, 02:02 AM
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just going to try swapping my cdrw and dvd onto primary dave! that sound like the fix I need! will let you know if it works
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