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Old 07-29-2003, 05:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gaming Why I think you shouldnt try Linux...

Okay, I know you guys are all gonna hate me!
But hey this is a site where you are free to give your opinions without fear, or isnt it? Anyways here are some examples IMO why you shouldnt use Linux (this is especially created for the Windows Users):

1. Its extremely complicated! For a Windows user, Linux is very complicated and takes a lot of time to get used to, if you even get! Here is an example of how installation of a program works on Linux:

export CFLAGS="-mcpu=athlon-xp -pipe -O4"
export CXXFLAGS=$CFLAGS
./configure --prefix="/usr"
make
make test
make install

What the Hell! You just need to be extremely high tech guy or a simple nerd to undrestand this!

2. Almost no Support.

Although in the past it didnt work with anything now it is recieving much more support altough not enough. Some programs you used in Windows will not work and if you want some of them to work youll need to download a program that lest you use Windows Programs (not sure how this works) Good luck trying to install the program Windows User!

3. Gaming

for the Gamer Linux is the last OS besides MAc that passes on his mind when he want a OS to play Games. It has almost none in support regardeless games, (although games like UT 2003, and other have versions to Linux, but just a few) And I know there are programs that you can use to make the games work but isnt it easier to just stay with Windows?

4. Problem solving

Who are you going to ask when suddenly the OS wont boot and it give you some strange errors? Send an email to the Linux crew? Call the help line? Call 911?
More than 90% of the earths population uses Windows, so you will at least find a person that can help you if you have a problem in Windows and many problems are more known in Windows than Linux just because of this...

5. Bugs

You will say, Windows is FULL of bugs, Linux has almost none! Well true but this is in reagards to the KNOWN bugs, what about the unknown bugs? Im sure many bugs are found in Windows because the majority uses it, period.

6. Pirate Heaven

Linux is extremely easy to make copies and "pirate" it, most critizise MS for the activation but im sure the pirate will have a living hell trying to pirate a XP version... Its easy to copy Linux because its freeware. Freeware has it advantages and disadvantages, remember that. For a free downloadable version of Linux you do not recieve support at all, want support buy it!

7.Ugly

Although the eye-candy is fair/ sometimes very good, the windows and the startmenu seems IMO very cheap. Just look at the clock for god sake! How ugly is that! If you want beauty get Mac! And the Linux users seems to take the eye-candy as a good thing but I am sure they have critized XP for its "fisher-price" look, childish look, mac look, etc, havent you?? Got ya huh?

8. Internet

Although it finds your connection to the internet and you can imediatelly surf after you have installed it if isnt that easy and nice for a Windows User. for example every time you go to a page where it is required cookies it asks you for the damn cookie if you accept it, in the beggining youll see it as a + thing and secure but with time its just so damn annoying!

9. Bloated

How many here critizied XP for being Bloated? Just look at Linux, more than 75 games included! Come On! Its full of programs that maybe you wont even use! So many things! Its too much. Bloated as hell!

10. Just for High Tech People

Linux is by far not recommended for the normal user or Windows user just because its so different and dificult to manage. Maybe as a server OS it is okay but for the typical user, no no, stay away from it! Will take you eternity to get used to it and days to at least know where to go...

IMO Linux can maybe in the future become a strong enemy to Windows but for now its just too different and it needs more work on it as well as support and compability.

I myself have use SuSE, Mandrake, RedHat, Connectiva, etc , oh and there are just so many that you dont even know from the beggining which one to choose! Why so many and they release frequently new ones very time (and many critisize MS for making an OS every 2-3 years! lol )

Many, and believe me, many will hate me now with this post but its my opinion, I have the right to voice it!
Most Linux ppl try to put on your head that Linux is the best and so on... Keep trying fellows... Good Luck!

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Old 07-29-2003, 05:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I like #10, especially consitering what website this is
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Old 07-29-2003, 05:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree.... although I do enjoy linux, because I like to customize it and play with it's tools
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Old 07-29-2003, 05:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 07-29-2003, 05:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I dont know if I agree or disagree. I'm primarily a windows user but I like learning new things and learning Linux so far is fun. Just like in windows if you have a problem just do a search or just ask here or elsewhere.

Most things I can do in windows I can do in Linux also. I do have a problem here and there with a few things but not enough to persuade me against Linux at all.

I love the price and if all I have to pay in order to use it is learn it then hey I'm all for it.

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Old 07-29-2003, 06:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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NO matter what side people take you have done a good job with your evalutation. i run three machines 24\7 with windows xp and have no problems. i am going to try the knoppix thing on cd just to look. i for one have no problems with xp and would bet most problems are not operating system problems but hardware related.
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Old 07-29-2003, 06:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Quote:
Just look at the clock for god sake! How ugly is that! If you want beauty get Mac!
ah ha... haha. hahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! *thud*

no please... stop it! i can't take anymore references to the "usefulness" of a MAC.. *wheeze*
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Here's a take from another light.

1.) you dont need that, the only reason you would ever export CC flags is to compile with optimizations. Have you heard of binary packages? ie debs, rpms, tgzs? The only time you would ever ./configure, make, make install was when you were compiling from source.

2.) Almost no support? You will have far better luck finding support at all hours (there are MANY 24 hour dedicated irc chat rooms and a plethora of internet resources) and there is a linux equivalent for mostly every windows program. Throw in the fact that crossover offce now runs the entire office package perfectly, including access and visio and i fail to see where no support comes in.

3.) Games you are fairly correct on. The linux community isnt a games first place. In all fairness I play one game, Wolfenstein ET, and it runs better in linux than windows.

4.) I have yet to have an OS boot and give me strange errors. Let alone linux. Windows has randomly given me the blue screen and complained about missing files, but the only time a linux install didnt boot was when i corrupted my journal file or compiled a kernel incorrectly (something a newb wouldnt touch)

5.) As far as bugs go, bugs in windows refer to many bugs in the kernel and software exploits. The linux kernel is tested VERY thoroughly and as is most of the software. Patches are also released quickly. We could debate this all day though so it isnt worth much breath.

6.) pirate heaven? I dont have a clue wth you are talking about here.

7.) Your "beauty" is another man's repulsion. I like simple, I like boxy. I dont like hold my hand fisher price. a slick simple GUI runs infinitely better than a graphic intensive gui.

8.) I dont know what browser you were using, but opera and mozilla dont do this.....
Flash and Java can be a bit of a pain if you arent familiar with what you are doing, but that's about the end of the "internet" trouble from the 5 distros I have used.

9.) Bloated? You evidently miss the point of bloated. When you install you CHOOSE those packages to get installed Of course if you install all that crap you will call it bloated. Can I fill your HD with all the crap I want then call it bloated?
Take the time to properly go through an install and you will have a sleek and sheik system.

10.) I can't argue much here, if you are a life windows user. It is apples and oranges. The linux file system is no more complicated than the windows file system. However it is a HUGE change if all you have ever used with windows. When i first loaded up Mandrake 6 i looked at it and went where the hell is my C drive.
It all comes down to what you learn first. It is a steep learning curve if you are a life windows user, but that is no harder than learning spanish for a native english speaker.
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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What can you expect for free?
You become a part of it and the community that "makes it happen"---so it takes a struggle or 2, big deal---got something better to do?
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Old 07-29-2003, 07:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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pretty much same thoughts here krohn.. just his statements were so horribly off base I thought maybe he was just trying to push buttons

linux bloated

its by YOUR choice its bloated!
You can squeeze it down to a FLOPPY if you want!
bloated lol thats funny...

Linux isn't for you *shrug*
You have the right to speak your mind, but fud doesn't go far

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