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Old 07-26-2003, 08:51 PM   #81 (permalink)
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A made up drive-by is not a real event. Drive-by's do happen, but GTA isn't a game about some real madman that decided to jack cars, mow people down in the streets, and kill as many cops as he can. It's fiction. 9-11 is real, it actually happened. Can you not see that difference?

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Old 07-26-2003, 08:52 PM   #82 (permalink)
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AFAIK, they are not using the victims names/police men names in the game.
that may be true, but you can still put an exact date and time on the actual event, whether they use the actual names or not. GTA you cannot.
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Old 07-26-2003, 08:57 PM   #83 (permalink)
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So what. Movies and game based on Pearl Harbor and Veitnam or even WW2 is any different. Those been done a hundred times or more. Just because this happened in our country makes it no different. I admit it was a tragic event. No matter what anybody says it still will be made. it happens all the time in music,games,movies.
Just don't play it. Or if its a movie then dont watch it. Everyone has the right to there opinion.
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Old 07-26-2003, 09:01 PM   #84 (permalink)
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that may be true, but you can still put an exact date and time on the actual event, whether they use the actual names or not. GTA you cannot.
I sure as hell can give you an actual name/event of a drive by.
As you mentioned before, even if they named it differently you would have still been pissed. Its just that because it happend once that you can easily pinpoint it... so what does this conclude? That if it happends as frequently as drive bys so that it would be impossible to name the actual event, it is ok????? When does the amount of times that something bad has to happend factor in to portraying it in a game.
BTW, reread my edit of that post... I might as well post it here.
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Having the same event in a different location is no different. Having a game that you are the victim of a specific drive by that did happen would be just as bad, but having a drive by in a fictional place with fictional people is tolerable. What makes this game bad, is the specific event it is trying to exactly emulate.
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Tolerable to you, intolerable to some of the victims' family and friends of every violent act in America. Yet, we embraced this genre of games a long time ago.
BTW, You are contradicting yourself in the above post... Drive bys are an actual event, equally tragic to Sept11... its just that it is based in a fictional(different) local with fictional people.. yet drive by victims are drive by victims regardless of whether they are fictional or not.
So please do not hold double standards here... we opened up Pandora's box when we accepted games like Doom and Wolfenstein into our culture... and I for one, will not attempt to close it.
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Although the game is quite a stretch I really dont see why this game could be any more appalling than other games mentioned, mostly Pearl Harbor and WWII games. The only real difference is that most of you probably did not live through them, and there was alot less media hype back then, thus the public wasnt so alarmed of its attrosity.

Even if you feel the game is immoral... then dont buy it, no need to flame it. America...free enterprise, I dont know why people feel business should be a censored public service
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I can't believe you people are supporting such a sick ass game. All of you that think this game is a good idea disgust me. The terrorists themselves would be proud of you. Should it be censored? No, i'm against censorship. Should it be accepted? No, not in any way, shape or form. Unless you are a twisted bastard that can actually enjoy playing a game that glorifies the terrorist attack of 9-11. I tried to email the makers of this game/mod/whateverthehell you want to call it, but of course, their contact info is a broken link, big suprise huh? *******
Supporting the game? I think you're slightly misconstrued here. I think I speak for others when I say we are not supporting the act that the game portrays. Merely defending the right of a company to make a game, regardless of its content. You say "twisted bastard that can actually enjoy playing a game that glorifies the terrorist attack". How is it glorifying an attack if you're mission is to survive?



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Old 07-26-2003, 09:21 PM   #87 (permalink)
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You said it all VHockey and thank God that there are people like you (and a whole others on this board) who don't blatantly assume things and use derogotary comments against people who don't hold the same views as they do
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I'm saying that the game glorifies the event that took place on that day.

*I realize i didn't make that clear in my original post, I appologize for that.
The game still doesn't do that.
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Please stop the public arguing and take it to the PM system. It appears to have become personal.


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Supporting the game? I think you're slightly misconstrued here. I think I speak for others when I say we are not supporting the act that the game portrays. Merely defending the right of a company to make a game, regardless of its content. You say "twisted bastard that can actually enjoy playing a game that glorifies the terrorist attack". How is it glorifying an attack if you're mission is to survive?
The game's creators clearly state you have a good chance of not being able to survive, no matter how hard you try, and you will have to either be engulfed in flames, or jump from a window.
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