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Old 07-26-2003, 06:23 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I shoot the hosties in HL.

*it took me a long time to be able to say that*
So do I, and thats one of the first things I do when I get a type of game... and no, its not because I enjoy it, because I'm anxious to see What the game does if such a thing happends and whether the game allows it ..... I love observing things like that and I appreciate the game more when the devs come up with something out of the ordinary in such a scenario (in some games they just die while in others they call cops while in others they attack you back while in others nothing happends).
BTW, did you know that you can't kill the children in NWN whereas killing every other inhabitant is possible?

I hope I'm not sounding like a psycho

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Old 07-26-2003, 06:37 PM   #62 (permalink)
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..interesting POV mad, there is a little difference though, and i may be strenching to make it...

the average game involves you playing the attacker, or atleast you have the option of fighting back and overcoming. with this game it is "you are going to die, now run away" so maybe i am going back to just the game as a game not being any good.

for some reason, whether it is just because that is all there has been to date and we have just accepted it, tyranny and "attacker" violence is the acceptable game. being a victim is neither fun, nor what most people look in for a game.

but you are right, it really is not too much different. but postal doesnt go untouched with an evil eye either. lots of people are against postal, just as this game. people dying in US are usually killed by US citizens. WTC involved terrorists from another country, that is where patriotism comes to play, US plays the victim, not just those who died.

i think i am just rambling now which usually means i am talking out of my butt, and mAdMaLuDaWg is right i am going to go shoot some hostages
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Old 07-26-2003, 07:01 PM   #63 (permalink)
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IMO, The reason of games not allowing you to play the victim is not because of fear of being accepted, it will just be too damn boring, I mean whats the fun of having to run away from people without being able to attack back?
You bring up a good point, the game is sort of opening up a new genre' in games, something where no game has dared to explore before... will it suck? Probally... but thats not the point.
Yeah, lots of people are against postal as with UT2k3 and every other violent game.
Most of us gamers are for postal and games that portray senseless violence. Proven by the point that Postal was the number one selling game (or on the top ten list, don't really remember) in America along with other countries at a time, and AFAIK, every single person who bought it enjoyed it (though I'll stop short of saying the same about Postal 2 )... the same goes for GTA.
Violence is violence, whichever way we look at it...If we censor this game, we are just opening up a can of worms...
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Old 07-26-2003, 07:20 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I can't believe you people are supporting such a sick ass game. All of you that think this game is a good idea disgust me. The terrorists themselves would be proud of you. Should it be censored? No, i'm against censorship. Should it be accepted? No, not in any way, shape or form. Unless you are a twisted bastard that can actually enjoy playing a game that glorifies the terrorist attack of 9-11. I tried to email the makers of this game/mod/whateverthehell you want to call it, but of course, their contact info is a broken link, big suprise huh? Deleted

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Old 07-26-2003, 07:53 PM   #66 (permalink)
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FalcolmPSX, first off you need to calm down. Second of all, where the hell does the game glorify the terrorists? Third of all, read all the posts instead of jumping off to conclusions.
And last of all, you better edit your post to remove any references associating us, gamers, with terrorists.
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I have read the posts, and Like stated in the news column, if this is ok, then let's make "Pick more cotton or face the master!" and "Concentration camps, can you survive?" Or maybe "Hiroshima, if you escape the blast, the fallout will get you!". And in your request to remove my "references", i'll let the mods do that. Don't tell me what to do, you're not my mom, i'm not your Deleted

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Old 07-26-2003, 08:04 PM   #68 (permalink)
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One question: You ever played Postal or GTA or Wolfenstein? If not, then played UT2k3, Doom, Heretic, Duke Nukem? If you haven't played any of the violent games then you truely do have a right to be critical about this... otherwise you don't.
Its only a matter of time before this thread which brought up valid points gets closed due to an ignorant and narrow minded approach by certain members.
As for the name calling and personal attacks, I won't stoop that low... it ain't worth it..
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Postal, no. GTA, sure played it plenty, I own GTA3. Wolfenstein, who hasn't played it?

There's a fundamental difference between Wolfenstein and this mod, and a totally different fundamental difference between GTA and this game.
Wolfenstein, you are killing nazi's, it's fictional, and it's blown so far out of proportion that it's clearly just a game.
GTA, is obviously completely fictional. It's mindless, senseless violence, that is not realistic in any way.
This game/mod recreates a terrorist attack, it's focus is realism, and on the victims that couldn't escape the tower. If the goal of this is to learn from it, go watch TLC, or the History channel. TLC has an excellent special reguarding what happened and why.

I can't speak for postal, as i know nothing about the game, except that a sequal, postal 2 exists and allegedly sucks.

name calling? I never called anyone names. I never personally attacked any one person. Don't accuse me of something I didn't do, thank you.
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Your argument holds no water, so your saying if they didn't focus on realism in this game it would be ok?
So what if GTA III exaggerates the violences? YOU ARE KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE... thats what it comes down too.
Dude, whatever, you said that terrorists would be proud of us.... if that isn't an insult, I don't know what is. Plus you called us bastards...
So I am accusing you of something you ACTUALLY did.
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