CDRW: Faster than 52X?

[consumertalks]

I noticed that it went from 24X to 32X, 32X to 40X, 40 to 48X, so why did it only go to 52X? When will they get faster? I'm starting to wonder if there's a reason for it.. and if anyone can make media that won't break when you try to burn at 60X, etc.

Anyone read anything on this?

[muno]

What would be the point of that?
You haven't had faster cd-rom drives in years, if it would've gone further, we'd have 200x cdroms now.

24x takes few minutes to burn, why would you need 52x cdrw?

While this (logic) might not be the reason for that, I don't understand why it wouldn't.
Sure they can put out stuff no-one ever needs, but just buy because it's 'new' and 'improved'.
-M

[J-Excel]

I think there's a danger of the CDs shattering at higher speeds. Heard it or read it somewhere. I've even heard of this happening on rare occasions on sub-52X drives. The CDs just explode.

[JPMiller]

I have yet to hear of anyone truly burning a full cd at anything near TRUE 52X.
With the burnproofing and caching your never really burning anything near the "target" speed you set it for anyway.
For most people/setups, anything over 32X is overkill anyway... there are many reasons for the stagnation of the CDRW's speed wars, for once common sense is one of them.

[dunbar]

Originally posted by J-Excel
I think there's a danger of the CDs shattering at higher speeds. Heard it or read it somewhere. I've even heard of this happening on rare occasions on sub-52X drives. The CDs just explode.

Exactly what happened to me - shattered a Corel Draw install CDROM in a 24x drive.

But, all the same, much of the quoted CDROM drive speeds are already based on data flowing out of a cache. The speeds are not based on throughput at the optical pickup point. Kinda like filling a large water tank with a garden hose, then you start emptying the tank with a pumper truck..... sooner or later, the garden hose is all you get, but for a spell, things look rosy.

That is the difference between instantaneous throughput versus sustained throughput.

The rotational speed of the disc usually stays slow enough to keep away from the shatter point, but some discs are marginal, and some drives get lost while trying to keep the speed under control - I heard the 24x whine like never before, just days before the Corel disc broke on me. Neither the drive nor the disc are with me today.