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Old 07-09-2003, 09:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Misc hi im new here n need advice

i just recently put together my comp. basic specs below

asus a7n8x
athlon xp 2500 333fsb barton 512k
1024mb dual channel ddr400
gforce 4 ti4680 128mb agp8x (albatron)
60gig ata133 8mb 7200

i just installed win2kpro and all my games =). i havnt really messed w/ it but here is what i need advice on. i want to know what settings should i check for in order to have this machine running at optimal performance. for you guys w/ the same mobo how should my bios be setup? any advice for anything else id appreciate it... thanks

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Welcome to the forum!

I dont have that particular setup but it looks like a killer machine.

Someone will come along and give you soem settings Im sure. Probably memory timing type settings are the ones that give some adjustment.

Naturally you can google it to find a review or two cuz that'll probably give soem different settigns also.

Anyway, this response will serve as a "bump" to put your thread on top for a while longer so the guys will see it.

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Old 07-09-2003, 07:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Alot of people go with AMD, ys that.

I like intel alot better then AMD. I have no reason to hate on AMD but its not very good.

Someone tell me why AMD is good, and ill tell u y intel is good.
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Not sure of the point of your post Shadow.. everybody has their preferences *shrug* but your preference doesn't help him at all.

Jeremy, you could run some benchmarks to compare your machine to others.

Sisoft Sandra is a decent utility but not so much on benchmarks but decent for finding little quirks that may improve the system.
The most common method is using MadOnion's 3dMark. You will run the benchmarks and it will give you a score, then you can compare that score to others.

Sisoft Sandra
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Alot of people go with AMD, ys that.

I like intel alot better then AMD. I have no reason to hate on AMD but its not very good.

Someone tell me why AMD is good, and ill tell u y intel is good.
This is a thread crap, considering the fact that all you have done is bash AMD and not addressed Legend107's question at all.


Legend107, for basics, make sure that AGP 8x support is enabled, and also AGP fast writes. For other settings, all I can say is bump your frequency settings and memory timing settings step by step until you encounter instability, then go back to the last stable settings. I wouldn't mess with increasing any of the voltages as this could severely shorten the life of some components.

Remember, Overclocking is Good!
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Old 07-09-2003, 08:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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For BIOS:

Use the optimized (fast) settings, and run your computer heavily (play really powerful games, 3dmark it for a few hours, Sandra it for a few more hours) and see if it holds up. If it crashes a bunch, set it to failsafe. Then use this guy's settings for optimal graphics performance:

http://www.omegacorner.com/bios.htm

Check his 'archives' for more tips for performance gains (and how to hook up some serious bass if you want ).

Next, go to Start>Settings>Control Panel>System. Click the performance tab. Click virtual memory, and specify your own. Choose the fastest drive on your system (if you have more than one). You have 1024mb RAM, so you don't need much. You'll needto put the same number in the maximum and the minimum spaces. I'd put 512 mb in there, just to be safe. If you do alot of mulitasking with stuff like video editing, photoshopinbg, audio editing, and/or gaming, go for 768 or 1024. DO NOT PUT DIFFERENT NUMBERS IN EACH SPACE. Otherwise, you will have a performance hit and will probably have to defrag more than usual. Restart, and get back to the system window.

Click the 'Device Manager' tab. First of all, look for any icons with yellow or red icons at the lower-left-hand corner. Report any to us if you find them. Now click next to 'Disk Drives'. You should see something like:

GENERIC DISK TYPE IDE47

listed there (Or you will see the actual mfg name and model ## for your HDD, depending on how advanced your IDE controller). Click on one (if there are multiple), and then click properties. Click settings. Make sure DMA is checked. Click OK, and repeat for all of your hard drives (not the floppy drive though). Click OK on the System Windows when done, and restart.

Now head to www.outertech.com, and download Cacheman (whatever the latest ver. is). First off, go to Options, after installing it, and tell it to NOT load on system startup. Then go to Settings. Click Profile. Now click Show Wizards at the top, and click 'All'. Go thorough it and make your choices carefully. Do have it automatically set your cache, set your path cache to the large amount, set the large icon cache (helps stop the icons from suddenly morphing into other random icons), do unload DLLs, and DEFINATELY turn on Conservative swap file (you have MORE than enough RAM to do that). Set the VFAT contiguous allocation size to large, choose which read-ahead best fits you (I would just leave it to default, but that's me), set your IO buffers to max, and optimize all the 3 final settings. Click File>Save Settings, and reboot the machine.

That should give your biggest performance increase. Now head to a few sites to get some smaller, but styill awesome, tweaks:

www.omegacorner.com - Contains Quality-optimized versions of ATI, Nvidia, and 3DFX drivers for downlaod. They are, however, NOT official, so be warned. He also has some nice tweaks in his 'Archive' section.

www.pureperformance.com - Tweaks galore for windows.

http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/ - Written by resident TechIMOer Beemer. Very comprehensive, and has great links to more tweaking sites.

Be warned, many of the tweaks listed are 'Registry Tweaks'. If it involves running a program called 'REGEDIT', you'll need to backup your registry first. Simply load that program, and tell it to export your registry to a file (save it somewhere you will remember. In C:\WINDOWS is a good place). If a registry tweak messes up your system, or if you mess up, then you have a backup.

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-edit- BTW: The cacheman thing you did modifiedyour cache, so unless you want to try some other ways, you already optimized all of the maches mentioned in the program.

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Old 07-09-2003, 08:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi and welcome to TechIMO

Be sure that you have the latest drivers for your video card and MoBo ... get DirectX9 if you didn`t already ...

Check the you have DMA enabled for your CD drive(s) and HDD drive(s) also ...

In the BIOS, make the Aperture size 128 (in the video settings) ...

Finally, go into the video card properties and change the setting for best performance and check other options as well ... they are all explained so that you know what you`re changing ..

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Ideally you want to raise the fsb and lower your multiplier settings in the bios. Depending on how good your ram is 200fsb is a goal to shoot for.

Now if you want to overclock it that's no problem either.
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Old 07-09-2003, 09:31 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Since you're wanting to make it "go faster", you might as well disable as many of the services as you can.

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I'm running the deluxe version of that board , same processor , and 2 x 256 mb of pc3200 dual channel , Ti4200 128mb 8x. Right off the bat I had it running 2.2ghz , 200 x 11 , 1.65 Vcore. You should be able to do that or even better. I haven't pushed mine any more than that yet. It's been built and running at those settings for about a month now and no problems what-so-ever. Last 3d Mark score was 13,335 . Or here . You've got a good combo. Run 3D Mark if you have it and post your score.


Here's some of my bios settings for reference:

cpu external freq = 200mhz
cpu frequency multiple setting = menu
cpu frequency multiple = 11.0x
system performance = user defined
cpu interface = aggressive
memory frequency = 100%
memory timings = user defined
cpu vcore setting = menu
cpu vcore = 1.650v.
graphics aperture size = 128mb
agp frequency = 66mhz
agp 8x support = enabled
agp fast write capability = enabled

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