My Idea of P2P file Sharing.

[Dmack_901]

1.) Is not theft(is copyright infringment) why=
Steal-To take (the property of another) without right or permission. (source Dictionary.com)
By definition P2P is not taking the property from the owner. They still have it. They are not being deprived of ownership. It is as if you had the only piece of gold in the world. so it was very valueable. But people began mining gold from the ground. That lowered the value of your gold to a now worthless state at which you cannot sell it. You may not like it but they did nothing wrong. Now if you invented gold and got a petent on it they others started making they would be infringing on your copyright.

2.)my thoughs o the future if it=
if P2P was extreemly rampant the value of music would be Nothing(almost is). If music had no value the money driven individuals would not make it(music). because it would provide no profit. Leaving only the diehard music fans and bands who just want the fame.
Thus music would be like linux.(not compleetly) in which the product it's self costs nothing yet the people behind it keep it going.

P.S. for music/ programs /movies alike

[Telexen]

You're abusing the word take...you cannot COPY or DUPLICATE material. Taking is theft...copyright infringement does not exactly mean theft.

My thoughts...Eliminate P2P software altogether...nobody really needs it.

[Dmack_901]

all I'm saying is they P2P is not theft. it is copyright infringment.
(assuming the file is copyrighted) and it is promoting the downfall of money driven music....wether or not you want that. (i don't care either way)

[Siliconjunkie]

copyright infringement is theft of intelletual property.

Now, P2P in itself isnt theft. It is like saying that blank CDs are stealing. It has legitmate purposes. But it is usually used for theft.

[Mike]

Great attitude Telexen.
I see it that the RIAA needs to stop trying to make so much money (as do the artists)

How can artists like Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg complain that file sharing is taking money from them? Have you seen their house? Perhaps if Snoop didn't need a different luxury car for every day of the week.

Personally I wouldn't know where to begin looking for some of the Techno, Trance, Classical, and Jazz music I have. A lot of it I haven't seen in stores or on CD's.

[Telexen]

All I'm saying is this... Your arguement below this is flawed...it doesn't matter if you're stealing it from them...it's copyrighted to protect you from copying it...which P2P software does.

Originally posted by Dmack_901

By definition P2P is not taking the property from the owner. They still have it. They are not being deprived of ownership. It is as if you had the only piece of gold in the world. so it was very valueable.

[aznxguy2o9]

it is kind of wrong to dl things that are copyrighted
all i'm saying is that i doubt it will go away
napster went down
kaaza went up
and theres always AOL server
i just can stand buying a cd for 20 dollars and only liking maybe one or two songs

[Siliconjunkie]

The arugment comparing a piece of gold and intelletual property is not even worth debating. Go read up on what IP is and what it means. Then tell us that copying music/software isnt theft.

And it is not our place to say they are making too much money so it is OK to steal from them. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. If enough people do this, they will have to lower prices.

And not knowing where to buy it doesn't excuse it either.

[Mike]

I wasn't trying to say that's my excuse for downloading music. Hell some of the songs I don't even know the names to.

Now where did I say it's ok to steal from them because they make too much? I am just going to assume that you need to stop assuming things. I'm simply stating that they complain and moan about P2P "robbing" them when people like Master P have a bed room that ran him about $3 million or so.

[Siliconjunkie]

How can artists like Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg complain that file sharing is taking money from them? Have you seen their house? Perhaps if Snoop didn't need a different luxury car for every day of the week.

Sure sounds like you justifying not paying for it to me.....

And lets keep it civil. No need to be rude about things.