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Old 06-30-2003, 02:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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pentium 4 L1 cache

Just wondering how much L1 cache does a Pentium 4 3.0ghz cpu have?

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Old 06-30-2003, 05:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It has 0 as far as I know.

I believe it has an 8kb trace cache, which isn't quite the same thing...
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Old 06-30-2003, 05:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It has 512 kb L2 cache. Either case, whether it's B or C, it's got 512 kb L2 cache since it's a Northwood core, when the Prescott comes out it'll be 1 meg

Edit: Ooops... forgot it was L1 sorry, I think it's 8 kb because the Prescott doubles everything which includes L1 so it takes it up to 16 kb.

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Sorry to say guys, but yer both wrong.

The P4 has 20Kb L1 cache, which consists of 8Kb trace and 12Kb data cache.
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yup

12k "T-cache"
8k "D-cache"
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Old 07-01-2003, 04:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 07-01-2003, 04:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sorry, but try again.

The trace cache is not really definable in size, as its size is measured in micro-ops, 12000 to be exact. Here is my detailed explanation of the P4 architecture....

http://www.sysopt.com/articles/p4/index.html

Page three discusses the cache architecture.

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Instead of measuring with the more traditional Kilobyte size rating, Intel has rated the trace cache with the ability to buffer 12,000 micro-operations. To simplify terminology, a micro-operation can be thought of as decoded data ready to be processed by the core execution stage. For most processing functions the average x86 operation is approximately 3.5 bytes large and requires an average of 2 micro-operations for decoding. Let's do a little math:

3.5 bytes * 12,000 / 2 micro-ops = 21 Kilobytes (approximately)
The trace cache is 12 K µOP, 8-way, with 6 µOPs/Line. Microcode is inserted both into and after the trace cache, the built traces span accross taken branches, and SMC on 4 KB granularity flushes the entire trace cache. The data cache is 8 KB, 4-way, with 64 Byte/Line and 1 Line/Sector.

The P4 is unique in that the data prefetch mechanism fills the L2 cache, not the L1 data cache, as the trace cache already provides superb efficiency. The trace cache BTB is 512 entries, thus further improving branch prediction and overall cache efficiency.

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so its just 12kb L1 cache then?
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Old 07-06-2003, 11:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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To bad with the prescot Intel is deciding to ditch the on die cache controller completely.

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Ummm.... no

The Prescott CPU's will have 1 MB of 90nm on die L2 Cache, not sure about the L1 cache, though. It would make absolutely no sense for a CPU manufacturer to cut out on-die cache at this point.
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