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Old 06-26-2003, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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network jamming

No doubt this has been posted before and the answer lies before me, i just dont' know how to word it to search for it, so i need direct advice.

my network is kind of lopsided but here goes:

2 computers are hooked together using a CAT6 wire -> HUB -> Cat5e crossover between them. [one acting as server] firstly, it sets me up as a 10Mbit/s network, which is fine, its just used for occassional file transfer/gaming, but when i sent a 10 MB file across, it took over 8 minutes. I am looking at the router and it says COLLISION on POL/RX [Hubway Hub w/ ASP] the light begins to flash orange.

is this because we are using both CAT6 and CAT5e? i would have figured that the CAT6 would be downgraded to CAT5e as the bandwidth would demand.

network settings on both running Win2K are:

[server]
IP addy 192.168.0.1
Gateway 192.168.0.1
DNS 192.168.0.1
WINS 192.168.0.1

[client]
IP addy 192.168.0.2
Gateway 192.168.0.1
DNS 192.168.0.1
WINS 192.168.0.1

both have file sharing etc enabled, and it is just absolutely lethargic to connect between the two. I would like to have 100MBit Ethernet connection if at all possible. I'll get another wire if need be, i just need you guys to name it. thanks a lot!

*note* both are running 8RDA+'s with 2700+'s onboard LAN

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Old 06-26-2003, 06:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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First off, if you're using a hub between the PCs, you shouldn't need a crossover cable. Just two normal CAT5 cables should work fine. Secondly, if there's no internet connection sharing, you don't need a gateway, DNS, or WINS. Just two IPs on the same subnet. If the "server" machine isn't actually running DNS and WINS and you're pointing your other box at it for DNS and WINS, you're confusing the heck out of the second box.
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Old 06-26-2003, 06:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You could use a crossover if you plug into the uplink port, but still not a good idea. Patch cords are cheap.
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m_six, i am in fact using a shared internet connection between them so i needed the DNS and WINS.

I went to the trusty old best buy [hahaha!] and they had a plethora of CAT6 cables, but when it comes to needing a crossover, of course, they don't carry them. Im still clueless as to why not.

the reason i am not using just a couple of CAT5 cables is because the network NEVER works. i don't know what's up with it, but i have to have that cross over in there. the reason the Hub is in there is because often there is a LAN party going on. Sigh... oh well, i guess ill have to go digging for that hidden cable somewhere in the rubbish box.
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The hub is your problem; collisions are a fact of life with hubs. Replace it with a switch (they are cheap now, at least for an unmanaged one).

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Running the combination of CAT5 and CAT6 isn't a problem in your case.

As for collisions, it may or may not be directly related to your slow transfer speeds. Collisions are normal in an ethernet network (of course excessive collisions is a different story).

The slowness you see could be related to things including NIC drivers, poor cabling termination, oxided cabling conductors, EMI, faling HUB/switch, etc...
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Since your hub can't talk and listen at the same time, you might try setting your NIC's to half duplex and see if that will help. Hatswitch does have the best answer though. Get a switch. They're cheap nowadays.
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forgive my ignorance, but where would i go about setting to half duplex?
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Network Neighbourhood Properties > Network Card > Configure > Advanced > Media Type (Can be two different categories, link speed & duplex).
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