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Old 06-22-2003, 07:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GeForce5900 Ultra TROUBLE

I just installed fx 5900 ultra with all different types of drivers tried, like 44.03, 44.51, 43.51, 44.65 and the problem I have is that when I load a game after about 30 seconds to a minute...everything freezes. I have also tried running the nvidia dawn videos demos and they start and then freeze with sound still playing in the background.
I have a MSI K7n2 Delta motherboard with 512 MB CorsAir PC 3200 ram latest Nforce2 drivers , 430 watt power , AMD xp 2800 +.
Have you had or heard of any similar problem that you might know the answer to, before I break down crying because I just spent $500. on something that is no better than the leaf blower I use to have!

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what are the full system specs ?
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Old 06-22-2003, 07:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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MSI k7n2 Delta series motherboard
Bios version 7.2
AMD Athlon XP2800+ (2083MHZ)
Bios Settings
system performance on auto/spd
cpu fsb clock 166 MHZ
FSB/D RAM RATIO BY SPD
CURRENT DRAM CLOCK 200 MHZ
MEMORY TIMINGS BY SPD
T-(RAS) 6
T-(RCD) 3
T-(RP) 2
CAS LATANCY 2.0
AGP 8X SUPPORT ENABLED
AGP FAST WRITE SUPORT ENABLED
AGP APPERATURE SIZE 64M
INTEGRATED PERIPHERALS ALL DISABLED
INIT DISPLAY FIRST (AGP SLOT)
VOLTAGE CONTROL DEFAULT SETTINGS

Windows XP (SP1) all updates downloaded
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra (e-VGA) 256 MB
Detonator FX drivers 44.03
ANTEC true power 430W supply
nForce 2 drivers 2.03

Any more info you need just let me know! Thanks
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Old 06-22-2003, 07:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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ok what else is in the box , your drives , burners sound card nic if you have them need that kinda stuff also . also whats the power supply . and specs on the power supply .
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HP EN 1207D-TX PCI 10/100 FAST ETHERNET ADAPTER
PHILLIPS PSC703 PCI 5.1 SOUND CARD
LITE-ON LTR-40125S CD/RW
DVD ROM
QUANTUM FIREBALL LCT1 30GB
MAXTOR 9 0648D5 6GB

Also tried system set up with
GeForce FX 5800 Ultra 128 MB
Detonator FX 4403 drivers

Tried playing
C&C Generals freezes
Delta Force Black Hawk Down freezes at menu
When the games freeze I have to turn off the computer via the power button.

Thanks for the help mate.
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ok did you disable the onboard sound and network card on this . if i am correct you show that you have installed a nic and sound card . if you didn't disable them it might be the problem . not so much the nic but the sound cards might be fighting each other when you go into the game . you might try uninstalling them and useing the onboard ones to see if that does it . also what are the temps on the pc ? is the power supply a dual fan power supply or does it only have the exaust fan ? heta may also be an issue . it will cause video to freeze up . when you built the pc did you use the cd that came with the motherboard to load the drivers ? i have never used this msi board but i know that the ecs board i loaded today , when you load the drivers off the cd that comes with the motherboard it also loads usb and sound drivers . being that your motherboard has onboard sound it might have done this also . then you installed the pci sound card and the old drivers for the onboard sound are still in there mucking things up . thats my first guess . either you didn't disable the onboard sound and nic or the drivers for the sound card aren't right .

hope this helps .
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Yes onboard sound and nic have been disabled thru the bios.

The philips sound card drivers are the latest ones for windows XP.

I will attempt to use the onboard sound to see if that makes a difference. The power supply is dual fan and only one week old.

Again thanks so much for your help.
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is there a card in the first pci slot . i know the 5800 blocks it but not sure about the 5900 . i know the agp slot shares an irq with the first pci slot . also the other pci slots are shared . have you checked to see if the nic and the sound card you have installed are trying to use the same irq ? that can also cause the freeze . try moving one of the cards to a different pci slot and see if that does the trick .
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Well I was positive that the onboard Lan and Sound were disabled through the BIOS.
I also checked that they were not in the "Device Manager" and they weren't.

What is frustrating me most is that the previous card I had the FX5800 Ultra was working on my old motherboard (Asus A7V266), and the current games I play looked great, but there was a bottleneck in the system due to the motherboard and only having a XP1700+ processor. When the FX5900 Ultra arrived I had some problems installing and Windows98SE didnt like the card and/or drivers (44.03) that were supplied by e-VGA, but that was the same version number that I was using for the FX5800 Ultra.
My Windows all of a sudden was having errors and BSOD's.
I completely removed all nVidia Drivers and even used "Detonator Destroyer" to remove completely, and completely removed the video card from "device manager".
All reloaded ok, and then I proceeded to try the "Dawn" demo from nVidia, since the FX5800 would never run it, and I expected the FX5900 to do it no problem. Thats when the "screen freezing" started, but it did it even before the demo loaded, and then re-starting, scandisk, display settings were messed up, everything was reset, and then BSOD's started again just from closing the "display setting" window.
I had enough and decided that I should no loner delay upgrading the system and make the plunge into WindowsXP also.
So I get the mobo, memory and processor. Everything gets removed and then assembled. I then had problems configuring networking with XP due to me not knowing squat about it, but after a few hours of searching and reading and uninstalling drivers and re-installing drivers, I added my old NIC, and eventually got it connected........woohooo.....now all the Windows Update downloads...plus all other downloads to get the system up to my workable level, then- lets try the "Dawn Demo"...system freeze again, but it loaded this time and played for about 30 secs before freezing and sound still playing in the background.
Checked the drivers and all was ok.
Tried again...and same problem.
Re-installed drivers and this time tried C&C Generals, and you guessed it, freeze after a little over 30secs.
After restart (powerbutton was only choice) I tried another game, Delta Force BlackHawk Down, and freeze in the menu section.
Was time to call it a night and try again next day.

NO LUCK.

Even tried putting the FX5800 Ultra back in and same problem but with the "leaf-blower" noise.
Messed with drivers, Bios, settings, this and that, still no go.

I even tried a different FX5900 Ultra to see if it was the card itself that had the problem, but no, the 2nd one had the same results.

Then it brings me to this Forum.

After your last reply, I thought it worth a try taking out sound card and NIC. Had to add another item that came with mobo for rear speaker connection and SPIDF (not used). Then I lose 2 friggin' hours waiting to speak to someone at Microsoft to get XP activated again because of the hardware changes.

After getting the onboard LAN working and onboard sound was working fine, time to try "Generals" game................

NO LUCK........freeze again, but I didnt even get as far as previously.

So I am at a total loss now.
Everything works fine and fast, except I freeze when trying anything 3D and have to "power button" to close.

Guess I will be writing/calling tech support Monday.
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ok so you tried it with just the onboard stuff and no go ? hmmmm and you use the straight nvida reference drivers ? what about the chipset drivers ? are they updated ?

hmmm ok whats the specs on the power supply ? the 3.3 , 5 ,12 volt amperage ? the only other thing i can think is the video cards just pull way to much power . the 5900 has a connector on it to give it power like the old voodoo 5500 did correct ? i think i read that in a review . if it does does the 5800 also have this connection ? i am thinking with the added things that this motherboard has and the higher cpu maybe it is just anuff to put the system over the edge . list the specs for the power supply and the brand if you would . i am kinda running out of answers . we will get to the bottom of this my friend ..
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