ntldr not found

[choc101]

Are the floppy and CDROM recognized in the bios?

I'm still not sure if I understand what you want to do.
Are you still trying to reformat and reload the OS?

What exactly have you tried?
Let us know

[c:\dos\run]

I have formatted the computer, I wanted to install 95 again and just start from scratch, then hook it up to my network. This NTDLR thing is bugging because you're right, it should be on NT machines, the CDROM is going through a PCMCIA card and is not detected by the bios. i have it set to boot from the floppy, then the C drive. I tried both the boot disks from bootdisk.com, but I'll try a 98 one and let you know if it fixes anything. Oh, and when i used the boot disks (from bootdisk.com) they both said starting windows, the cleared the dos screen, and said driver could not be found, i think it means the cdrom... I'll try the 98 boot disk and let you know how everything turns out.

[c:\dos\run]

I think i might know why its looking for NTDLR, the 95 disks my friend let me borrow, they are one of those sets that are given by a computer company, maybe that has something to do with it... does anyone know where i can get windows 95 on disks?? do they even sell that anymore?

[choc101]

Im not sure yet but it appears that the cdrom issue and the ntldr issue are not related. It's weird that the system is looking for the nt loader when you are trying to install 95 or whatever.

Do you know if nt has been loaded onto the laptop previously? That would be the most likely explanation for a missing ntldr error. I suppose on the rare occasion even after a format that you might get this error. Since the ntldr is loaded from the boot sector in the HD a simple format may not completely take care of it. You may have to do a lower level format to fix it.

There is one thing you could try which may fix it besides reformatting. If you could boot up to a boot disk like 98 or something when you come to a prompt do this

prompt> sys c: <enter>

This should say something like "system transferred" upon successful completion. This still isnt going to help you load the os.
I'm not saying this is the exact solution but this is one method to try that I dont think you have.

You will also notice that on your boot disk there is a file called mscdex.exe. This is a enables DOS to recognize and control CDROM's. You can get file freely on the internet Herer
You might be able to load the dos drivers and load the system this way.
Once again I cant guarantee anything but this is a start.
Good Luck
-Late

[c:\dos\run]

ok, ill try that. This is my dad's old (very old) work computer, so it may have some nt properties on it. Ill try what you said and get back to you.

[c:\dos\run]

ok, i played around with the mscdex and the drivers for the cdrom. I got windows 95 installed but after i installed windows, it stopped recognizing the cdrom i want to tap off the dsl network that my XP machine has. i need the cd to do this!!! ::arg:: anyway, if i ever get my cdrom working, i will prolly have more questions regarding the network, ive done it plenty of times between 2 xp pro machines and an xp home and xp pro machine, but never with windows 95. anyway, once i get it networked, and i know i can do it, im formatting my xp machine, then networking again (since it "should" be easy since the 95 machine will already be set up, anyway, thank you guys for your help while i do my "spring cleaning" lol. im gonna go play around with the cdrom drivers some more(hopefully get windows to recognize them), now that i have windows again

[c:\dos\run]

ahhh!!! i have no idea how i got mscdex to install the drivers!!!! could anyone tell me how???? the drivers are located in C:\cdrm.

ive been playing with mscdex/d: like i thought i was before, but i dont know.

help!!!!

so frustrated!!!!

[c:\dos\run]

ahhh!!! i have no idea how i got mscdex to install the drivers!!!! could anyone tell me how???? the drivers are located in C:\cdrm.

ive been playing with mscdex/d: like i thought i was before, but i dont know.

help!!!!

so frustrated!!!!

i need some coca cola

[c:\dos\run]

whoops, didnt mean to post that twice, lol

[kendo]

if your cd rom is external and working through the pcmcia slot then you will need dos drivers from the manufacturer to make it work, you would also need to load pcmcia drivers from dos so dos could "see" first the pcmcia slots and then the cd rom

there would have to be a call in the config sys and autoexec.bat files to make these items work

mscdex will be run from the autoexec file on a boot disk and look something like MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:Z

your cd rom sys file will look something like this and run from the config.sys file on a boot disk

c:\cdrm\oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001

in this case oakcdrom.sys file is the actual driver for the cd drive, your particular drivers will of course have a different name

if your drive is supported in dos (likely it is because of the age) you could possibly get all the drivers needed from the manufacturer or somewhere like driverguide.com