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Old 06-11-2003, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Zip drive won't instal

I've got a new PC with a ECS GameUnion K7S&AG (socket A) and running on Win98.
All works well, except for when I tried installing a 100Mb zip drive (Panasonic) in it. I made sure jumpers are all set properly, but the drive isn't recognized, as it is with my old PC (an Intel).
I can't think of anything else but something to do with mobo.
But what?
I will appreciate any comments that might help.

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Are you going into your BIOS and checking to see if it is recognized there first?
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Old 06-11-2003, 04:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Are you going into your BIOS and checking to see if it is recognized there first?
Not sure how that can be done. Is it something that I could learn through a couple of instructions?
Computers isn't quite my field, I only use them for my work. Okay, I know how to defrag.
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Sorry for not getting right back.
When you first start your machine it does a POST (Power On Self Test) on this screen you will see your memory counting up. Also at the top of the screen you will see what brand of BIOS you have usually it is AMI, American Megatrends Inc, Award or Phoenix. Note which brand because knowing thst we can get you to the right spot easier.
Also, while the post page is on there will be a message somewhere on the screen to the effect of "Press XXXX to enter Setup" XXXXX can be something like delete or F2, F12. It's different depending on the mfg but those are the common ones to enter the BIOS setup area.
You must press the indicated key right away or you will go past the point where you can enter the BIOS setup.
Hopefully no one has entered a password but if they have we can deal with that relatively easily too.

When you enter the BIOS setup how you get around varies with the brand of BIOS. A couple let the mouse work and a couple yo must use keyboard commands. You will see them on the bottom of the screen.

Let us know the brand of BIOS and we can then tell you where to look to have the BIOS detect your ZIP.

Also, so you know which IDE cable you put the ZIP on? Is it set to be master or slave?
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Sorry for not getting right back.
When you first start your machine it does a POST (Power On Self Test) on this screen you will see your memory counting up. Also at the top of the screen you will see what brand of BIOS you have usually it is AMI, American Megatrends Inc, Award or Phoenix. Note which brand because knowing thst we can get you to the right spot easier.
Also, while the post page is on there will be a message somewhere on the screen to the effect of "Press XXXX to enter Setup" XXXXX can be something like delete or F2, F12. It's different depending on the mfg but those are the common ones to enter the BIOS setup area.
You must press the indicated key right away or you will go past the point where you can enter the BIOS setup.
Hopefully no one has entered a password but if they have we can deal with that relatively easily too.

When you enter the BIOS setup how you get around varies with the brand of BIOS. A couple let the mouse work and a couple yo must use keyboard commands. You will see them on the bottom of the screen.

Let us know the brand of BIOS and we can then tell you where to look to have the BIOS detect your ZIP.

Also, so you know which IDE cable you put the ZIP on? Is it set to be master or slave?
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When you first start your machine..........
Many thanks for your detailed instructions.
I will try to follow them and report back.
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Let us know the brand of BIOS and we can then tell you where to look to have the BIOS detect your ZIP.

Also, so you know which IDE cable you put the ZIP on? Is it set to be master or slave?
It's American Megatrends. More than that, I can't read, as the page disappears too fast. I'm sure there must be a way to pause it, but how?

I have 2 IDE ribbons. I leave the HD on one alone, the other goes to CD and the Zip drive. The CD drive was set as Slave. Wanted to make CD Master and Zip Slave, but when trying to make CD Master, that too won't be seen by the motherboard. Blind bitch!
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Ahhhh... pause. Yes should have told you how to do that. Simply hit the Pause key... top row usually 3 to the right of the F12 key. To resume hit enter or Esc.

American Megatrends kewl. This is a BIOS setup that lets you use your mouse to get around so it is easier.
Press the key that gets you into your setup.

Click or double click on the box labeled Advanced. This will give you access to some advanced setup features.

Go to IDE Configuration. Since you have The CD and ZIP on the Secondary IDE cable...(exactly where they belong) You need to go to the Secondary IDE Master and select it. It is always easyest to change the settings to AUTO. I suspect since it's not detecting the ZIP that it is in disabled mode. As soon as you change it to AUTO it should search for and detect the ZIP and configure the BIOS for it.

Now just click on the "-" symbol to close the advanced box and then the same to get out of BIOS setup. It will ask you if you want to save the changes and exit setup. Of course you do so select that and it should save an exit and restart the machine.

When windows starts it should automatically detect the new device and install it. Go to the Device Manager to confirm that it is there and working properly.

If enabling the Secondary IDE Master in the BIOS resolves the problem you can certainly change the jumpers and positions on the cable so that the CD is the Master and the ZIP the Slave device. Normally the Master device should go on the connector at the very end of the IDE cable and the Slave on the middle connector... just a FYI.

You never mentioned which OS you are using. If it is XP there is another reason your ZIP might not be detected. Go into your Device Manager, open the IDE ATA/Atapi controllers, select Secondary IDE and then advanced.
Make sure that the master and slave are both enabled and that detect DMA is selected. For that matter also go into the Primary IDE, advanced and make sure that the DMA is selected for the Master that your HD is connected to as well.

If this doesn't get it installed you may have to go to Control Panel, Switch to classic view, Add hardware and run the wizard to find and install your ZIP.

This hopefully will resolve your problem. Contact me if it dosen't.
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Yesss!
All working A1.
Your help is much appreciated.
I feel more courageous now.
My laptop needs reformatting.
Will it be too soon for me to try it?
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Too KEWL!!!! So, tell me... which one of the suggestions is the one that got the ZIP working?... just for my reference.

Naw... it's not to soon to screw up your laptop!

Tell me a little bit about it: Make, Model, HD size, processor speed, do you have a CD drive for it? and which OS were you thinking about putting on it. Also, is there data on it that you want to save?
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