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Old 11-21-2002, 08:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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thoroughbred?Palmino?Thunderbird?

Ok who can tell me how to tell the difference? I have an XP1800.
also........i've read about the MP trick? what is it and how do i do it?(make an XP read as an MP)

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Old 11-21-2002, 08:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thunderbirds went to 1.4Ghz so it's not that at all.

So we are down to two contenders. thoroughbred or Palmino.

Thoroughbred on the left, Palomino on the right

Which one IS your chip???
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Old 11-21-2002, 08:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thoroughbred and Palomino are different processor cores for the Athlon XP line. Thunderbird chips are their predecessors. Athlons from I believe 750MHz up to 1.4GHz, that are not Athlon XP, are T-Birds.

Now, a thoroughbred is a 0.13 micron CPU architecture, while Palomino is 0.18. There are also TWO Thoroughbred cores (A & B), just to keep the mix a little more confusing. The older Palomino's are all phased out now as far as I know, and all Athlon XP chips being manufactured now are Thoroughbred (all the newer ones are going to be the B core).

There is no compatibility difference between all these guys. The major difference lies in the fab size (0.13) and the power dissipation (the T-Breds run at a lower Vcc voltage than Palomino cores).

Depending on when you bought it, your XP1800+ is probably a Palomino chip. One way to tell is by looking at the actual CPU. Palomino's have the chip info etched onto the chip in the center, while T-Breds have that info on a black label that is stuck onto the green/brown material.

Hope this helps!

P.S. If you want to add another, the Athlon XP also has another core known as the Barton, which has a 512 cache on it instead of the 256!

P.P.S. Sorry, but I don't know the MP trick. Will stay tuned!

edit~booerns! Bob beat me! Well the visual helps my post out a little.
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Old 11-21-2002, 09:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Good Combo job though! You really went in depth on that stuff! Probably a bigger help!
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AHAAAAAAAA

thanks guys..........it's a Palamino I've just been reading different ways to unlock the AMD's depending on the core.....So i'm assuming that just the L1 bridge will on the Palamino eh?
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yeah that should be it.

here is a page about the XP's. About half way down are about 7 links for guides on how to unlock XP's! Good luck!
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xjjeep96:

Regarding the MP trick, you wrote:
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i've read about the MP trick? what is it and how do i do it?(make an XP read as an MP)
This is a matter of connecting a bridge or two, I would have to look up it for you if you're truly interested. (Email me and I'll dig out the link.) Also there is a company I believe in NJ that will do the XP to MP "conversion" for you ... $30 a piece, I believe.

I was considering doing this XP to MP to run dual MPs on an IWill MPX2 mobo, but (1) there is no guarantee the converted XP will work properly (stable) and (2) AMD came out with some faster CPUs for dual processing: MP2100 and MP2200 I believe. Check www.Pricewatch.com for a good price comparison on the MPs.

Good luck.

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I think it is the L5 bridges for the MP trick, but don't quote me on that.
Will they not work if you just plug them into a dual CPU board? The old thunderbirds and durons did. Does this mean that you need a new trick to make the Durons work in SMP as well now?
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What exactly does the MP trick do to an XP? How is the preformance? Any links??
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well i FINALLY found an auto parts store that carries the rear window defogger repair kit......(evil laugh)muahhh haha....time to see what this puppy will do.....(evil laugh) muahhh haha... I got 11687 on the last 3dmark, (locked.) can't wait till tomorrow.....maybe i'll break 12 k on the ol' 1800XP
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