WOL Senerio - Is It Possible To....

[Tazman]

access my pc from afar?

Sounds studid, huh? I'm not really strong in the network aspect of computing but I find myself in a situation that requires a crash course on the WOL subject. Hopefully DVNT1 is awake .

Here's what I want to do.

I want to access my main pc on my home network in NY from the house in FL via broadband. The reason(s) for this is because our house in Florida got robbed a few days after heading back north for the summer. I just finished installing $700 worth of X10's products and have a security montoring company that will call the cops if the motion detectors \ cameras are tripped.

That is all tied into my main pc via adapters from the VRC to both my video card and usb ports. The software that comes with the products will enable me to view live streaming video of the cameras through the internet (no audio). But I need to wake my computer up in order to do this. The pc will be completly shutdown but with the power active.

The network specs:

1. Adelphia Powerlink (NY) going to a Surfboard 4200 cable modem.
2. Modem goes to a D-Link DI-704 router (router is set at factory defaults with no adjustments).
3. #1 port on the router is wired to my Linksys LNE100 TX NIC (w/ WOL).
4. I have WOL enabled in my BIOS (Soyo Dragon Platinum 333). I also have the onboard NIC enabled (it's routed to another router / cable modem that will be disconnected).

Now for the "How Do I" for an idiot .

My main desktop is a quad-boot system; Win ME, 2K Prof, XP Home, Mandrake 9. I usually use Boot Magic to boot but have it disabled to prevent any conflicts (not sure if this is needed).

'Kay, now the questions .

First, simply put I can't figure out how to wake the computer without spending the next year taking a networking course. I read up on AMD's article (briefly) that DVNT1 posted in another thread and it intimidated me a bit. I'll put the questions in the order of concern to me.

1. Do I need to bypass the router because of the built-in firewall and go directly to the NIC from the modem?
2. Do I need to disable Zone Alarm? I kinda get really queezy thinking that I won't have a hardware or software firewall running.
3. What program(s) do I need to "wake" the computer in NY? I don't want to have to use PCAnywhere on a dialup for live video feed (I use RoadRunner in Florida).
4. Setting up the router to accept a certin ip address (and reject all others) "should" wake the computer and boot to Win ME, right?
5. (For the VCN users) - Can I have the VCN client(?) enabled at startup and be able to access it from Florida to run all of the programs locally? Has anyone even ever tried this?
6. Am I making this more difficult than it needs to be?

Any sipmle links to guides for morons on WOL or anything that may apply here would also be really helpful.

TIA

Mike

which za are you running? pro or the free verison. i know when i use the free verison i had a hard time with remote admin to acees the computer even know i allowed the program.

to access the pc with VNC you would forward the ports VNC runs on thru the router.

to have VNC start up just make a short cut of the .exe into the start up folder ( or check vnc for an option. im sure there is an start up option)

(im saying this because im not familiar with VNC, i use remote admin)

to wake the computer. (if your network card and motherboard support it)WOL How- T0

program for WOL

http://www.supermicro.com/TECHSUPPORT/FAQs/WOL_FAQ.htm

free WOL prog

http://www.madge.com/_assets/downloa...AN/WonLAN1.htm

now when it loads up and you have it multi boot, can you configure it to boot to a certain os if you don't choose and os in a given time? that would be a problem if you boot into linux first and have no remote program


i do everything except use WOL. i have a linksys router and i just put the ftp server in the DMZ (which is less secure) i put it in the dmz host cause the router was cause issues with port forwading since my whole network is DHCP.

[DVNT1]

WinVNC can be installed/ran as a service so it is active as soon as the computer starts up.

The free WOL program GZ posted should work as far as I can tell. It should be relatively simple, put in the IP address (LAN IP when testing the WOL feature, and Internet IP when going through the Internet) and the MAC address, then send the packet.

For the WOL to work, you must remember to install the realating cable from the NIC to the motherboard.

ZA will not stop the WOL from working, but it will stop the WinVNC until you allow within ZA.

First get to the point where you can "wake up" your computer from within the LAN. Then try from the Internet.

For the WOL through the Interent, your router you will need to forward port 7 (UDP) to the computer you want to wake up.

[Tazman]

GZ3 and DVNT1 -

Jeez, if I have to go back through both sites and tally up each time y'all helped me I wouldn't ever get anything done .

I will try in the am (I'm x10'ed OuT - to steal OuT's out ).

Thanks fer replying and I'll let y'all know what the results are.

Beer 30

Mike

good luck taz, report back your findings or problems.


try to help over here

[Tazman]

GZ - Great links !

I spent all morning trying to get the WOL going properly on the LAN as DVNT1 suggested. It took so long because I usually let Windoze handle the power management and had to do a whole lot of tinkering before I got it right in the BIOS and set Windoze to have the BIOS handle the PCI bus .

So far it works great on the LAN. Now for the hard part.

I played a bit trying to fire it up via the other cable modem and computer without much luck. The problem I'm having now is figuring out what (and how) to make my router pass the packet along to the NIC. I went into the router setup and looked around but didn't see anything I felt comfortable with changing. I see something that GZ mentioned about DMZ Host (it's disabled). I'm lost on where to go from here. The MC-WOL says I typed in the correct address...Success! but the computer doesn't boot.

Another question that stumps me - what to type in VCN for an ip addie. I usually just use 192.168.0.xxx for the LAN but I'm confused on what to use. Would it be the ip address of my router or cable modem or address combo of both and and the address assigned by the router to the computer .

I didn't relize (maybe I did and have been avoiding it) what a pain the actual protocols were gonna be. I can build and tweak all day but I feel like I'm in kidergarden now .

Mike

[DVNT1]

DMZ Host

not the prefered way because it totally exposes your PC to the Internet. It is better to just forward the appropriate ports (port 7, UDP if you have an option to specify)

...what to type in VCN for an ip addie. I usually just use 192.168.0.xxx for the LAN but I'm confused on what to use. Would it be the ip address of my router...

yes. Again, you will need to forward the appropriate port for VNC. Which is normally 5900 (I think).

[Tazman]

Sorry to be just now getting back to this - it's been crazy for the past week.

DVNT1, I gave up on trying to figure out a way around the router . I can't find anything in the setup to "forward" anything. I wound up just running the cat5 to the NIC from the modem and I was able to wake up the computer from another computer attached to a different modem \ router (ie: over the internet).

But that's it. VCN ain't playing nice or it's just that I'm a complete idiot. I shut down ZA on both computers just in case it was something there. The box I'm trying to access, (Win ME) I'm figuring that I just use the ip addie that is reported in winipcfg. That doesn't work or any of the others (DNS, Default Gateway, DHCP) which I'm thinking I should'nt be using in the first place.

What I'm doing is letting the machine fully boot (VCN Listen mode is in the startup menu, and does) after I use MCWOL. I then open VCN on the "remote" computer (next to it) and try to access it by typing in the ip reported and VCN fails to connect.

Is there a switch I'm missing in VCN? Maybe xx.xx.xxx.xxx / ???

I don't have a clue and gotta get this damn thing going before tomorrow. That or I'm gonna just get a
really big freakin' dog .

Mike

[DVNT1]

Port mapping is another term used for for port forwarding (in case your config mentions that).

ZA could be causing the problem with VNC (when ZA is running anyway).

Do not use use the 192.168.0.xxx address when accessing trying to VNC over the Internet. You must use your public IP address which instead. This is true if you are not using a router and even if you are using a router.

Have you even got VNC to work over the LAN (by using the 192.168.0.xxx address)?

[Tazman]

DVNT1 -

Thanks for the quick response. I've been trying for a few hours to reply but my cable is down (on dialup backup - back to the old days) - all the while I thought it was something I was doing to the router .

To answer your question, yes, I was able to wake the computer and run VCN on the LAN without a problem after I followed your directions .

From the last post of yours, I was able to get into the router setup and configure port mapping you mentioned. Until adelphia is back up and running in my area I won't know if it works. I mapped the first one to port 7, second to port 5900. I'll give that a try later when I can get online without alll of that old fashioned screeching .

Again, thanks!! I'll le you know how I make out.

Mike