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Old 10-07-2002, 05:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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whats so good about this drive besides the t@2 function?
how fast does it take to burn an image?
if you burn 1cm text around the cd that wastes 200mb of space... that totally defeats the purpose. can it write on the other side of the cd?

i need somebody to convince me why to buy this drive.

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Old 10-07-2002, 06:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hey Eryk,

I started this thread about Disc T@2, not about the drive. If you don't want this feature you are better off speed wise & $financially$ to go & buy a Liteon like I did. I just wondered whether Disc T@2 was just a software function.

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Old 10-07-2002, 08:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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>whats so good about this drive besides the t@2 function? ...i need somebody to convince me why to buy this drive

why do some people choose to spend more for a mercedes or bmw instead of getting a ford or buick? for those who can afford it, the yamaha represents the best in burner technology out there.

what's good about the drive is the amqr which excels in producing superior audio cds. it also happens to be a heckuva burner as well. this was the first to market for 24x on cd-rw discs.

rather than "follow", yamaha chooses to lead. they are one of the few remaining innovators out there. the t@2 probably isn't of great usefulness for the majority of users, but it does indicate that their engineers are a cut above the rest.

i can't wait to see what their dvd product will look like...

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Old 10-08-2002, 12:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I've got a 20X Yamaha burner, and this works beautifully. Everything just feels high quality about it.

I heard a rumor that there was going to be a firmware update for the 2200's enabling that mastering feature (the longer pits), but I've not seen one yet...
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Old 10-08-2002, 12:24 AM   #15 (permalink)
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why do some people choose to spend more for a mercedes or bmw instead of getting a ford or buick?
You've obviously never owned a BMW or Mercedes.

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Old 10-08-2002, 12:25 AM   #16 (permalink)
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samwichse,

i think i read somewhere that only the model prior to the 3200 (dunno it that's the 2400) series would get the firmware update. i think if there no update available for your model by now, it's probably safe to say, they won't be doing it.
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Old 10-08-2002, 12:28 AM   #17 (permalink)
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>You've obviously never owned a BMW or Mercedes

brandon184,

my remark was meant to be a rhetorical (sp) one. if you reread my post again, you might pick that up.

having ridden in both, i know well well the differences. but for some people, those 'extras' are not worth the addt'l expense.

i think the same might apply to burners. some people will be satisfied buying a $50 lite-on. others like myself, might opt for something with a little more features.
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Old 10-08-2002, 05:29 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hey Eryk,

I started this thread about Disc T@2, not about the drive. If you don't want this feature you are better off speed wise & $financially$ to go & buy a Liteon like I did. I just wondered whether Disc T@2 was just a software function.

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I guess I should have re-read that originally, sorry, DiscT@2 is hardware, and not software... so you'll need to get the burner, in order to put hte tatoo..
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Old 10-08-2002, 07:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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my remark was meant to be a rhetorical (sp) one. if you reread my post again, you might pick that up.

having ridden in both, i know well well the differences. but for some people, those 'extras' are not worth the addt'l expense.

i think the same might apply to burners. some people will be satisfied buying a $50 lite-on. others like myself, might opt for something with a little more features.
Calm down fella, it was just sarcastic humour. Due to your explanation, I can see you didn't understand the point anyway.

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Having owned both, I believe it's crystal clear why people buy BMW's or Mercedes over Chevy or Ford. In my mind (others may feel differently), it has less to do with ride comfort or pride of ownership - and more to do with the sometimes subtle, sometimes not subtle differences in reliability and quality of craftsmanship associated with each. Are you buying the "name"? You better believe it. But are you buying a vehicle which far surpasses that of many domestics in so many fields? Of course.

Regardless as to whether or not it was a rhetorical question, that doesn't give you (or anyone else) the right to throw random thoughts out there that make no sense, the whole while believing you really have no obligation to explain the basis or point you were trying to prove.

Back to the point... While the concept can somewhat be applied to the world of CD-RW drives, you can quickly come to realize why some spend the extra cash on a burner. It's not necessarily ENTIRELY for the "extra features".

Gooday, sir.

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Old 10-08-2002, 08:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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>Calm down fella, it was just sarcastic humour

actually i was calm at the time of that post. i was calm about everything until i read your negatively-charged reply.


Regardless as to whether or not it was a rhetorical question, that doesn't give you (or anyone else) the right to throw random thoughts out there that make no sense, the whole while believing you really have no obligation to explain the basis or point you were trying to prove.

rather than chastising or insulting me, you should reread this entire thread, because it's you who seems to have a basic problem understanding here.

let's back track here because you clearly have it all wrong.

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Eryk: posted the question as to why people should buy the yamaha burner over a lot of cheaper good burners like the lite-on? the going price for the yamaha is between ~$150-170 which puts it at roughly 3x the cost of a lite-on. given the fact that both burners have roughtly the same specs and that the diskt@2 feature uses up valuable space on the cd, he had a legitimate question as to why anyone would consider getting the yamaha.

so my reply was:

...that you can't just judge the yamaha by cost comparision alone. the yamaha is a superior engineered product. as i pointed out in my post, it was the first burner on the market that could burn cd-rewritables at 24x, and the amqr (also a first) and the disct@2 show that their engineers really think beyond the boundaries.

so the comparision that i was making was that the yamaha=mercedes and lite-on=ford. some people don't mind spending a little more for something (ie. buy the yamaha/mercedes) and some people would rather buy a basic model (lite-on/ford).

it's all a matter of taste. i don't think anyone would be wrong going either way. i happen to own a yamaha and if i needed to buy another burner, i would probably buy another yamaha again.

everyone else here seems to understand my post since you're the only one who's picking at it. so do us all a favor and spend a little more time reading the messages instead of making personal attacks on people while not contributing to the thread in question.

and lastly...

>Having owned both

oh, was that remark supposed to impress me?! i guess since i have never had such a privilege, i suppose i should fall at your feet and acknowledge you as my lord and master.

i'd say you're doing a pretty good job of making yourself look stupid. nothing more, nothing less.

edit: i just noticed...

if your profile info is accurate, you're about 20 years old. if you have indeed owned either a mercedes or bmw, it was bought with Daddy's money. you, sir, did nothing to earn it.

a word of advice: if you want to impress people with your wealth and material posessions, try doing it with your own money, instead of your parents.

LOL


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