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Old 09-14-2002, 05:29 PM   #31 (permalink)
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well the time needed to get it all fine and swanky even from stage 3 is going to depend on your hardware

gentoo offer amd, p2, p2-mmx, p3, p4, ppc, alpha, and sparc optimized versions

running a stage 3 p3 optimized version will still take time, but it will basically be the best linux your p3 ever had

run a stage 1 and you are in charge - linux with your own grubby paw-prints all over it

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Old 09-14-2002, 05:41 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Jester - I'd like to try it on another box because Slack's on the older box and I don't want to have to dual boot it (kinda defeats the purpose of having something really stable) and the newer box has an IDE controller card that only SuSE and RH seem to be able to detect.

I've tried several times to get Slack to detect it but with no luck. After seeing that Slack is as fast or faster with Fluxbox on older hardware as SuSE and KDE are with newer stuff I'm not to worried about installing Slack onto the newer machine.

I guess I'm spoiled but a third box would be really nice. Everything's just so cheap right now... You can get some really fast for under $300 if you're fine with hardware with over 6 months old. but I guess I'm spoiled for even saying that.
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Old 09-14-2002, 05:50 PM   #33 (permalink)
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no scott no...

I've been fighting this for months

a new box...sniff

I have 41 hours and a credit card - TIMO doesn't quite have the smiley for that feeling yet
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Old 09-14-2002, 06:10 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Oh, I know feeling... here's the plan:

Abit kg7 raid $47 @ computergeeks.
1600+ Athlon for $55 shipped
80 gig Western digital for $106 shipped
Cheap Nvidia Video card - $50

The ram is what's kiling me. I'm a snob and think 512 megs is where life begins.. I know.. go ahead.. flame me.. but I like having lots of ram. Anthing written in Java with a GUI is really slow unless you have lots of ram.
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Old 09-14-2002, 06:16 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I think we're in danger of riling auntie surreal so I'll just add that living overseas tips the scale a bit, plus it's hot here so I'd be wanting a p4 (because of the in-built sensors), so that I could have a crack at the gentoo 1.4 p4 to seee how that works against the p2
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Old 09-14-2002, 06:21 PM   #36 (permalink)
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If you don't mind me asking where are you?

I know that the Athlons run hotter but is it really that much of a concern? I've got a 1.2 with the stock fan in a cheap Maxtop case (with dual fans though) that runs 24x7 and never has a problem. I don't like letting the place get over 80 degrees though. It's not because of the computer either - I'm just not as thin as I used to be since I quit racing my mountain bike and fat guys don't like to get hot!
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Old 09-14-2002, 07:50 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I think we're in danger of riling auntie surreal
Um by off topic I mean walking into a Linux thread to praise Microsoft. OR Walking into a MS thread to tell someone You're problem is Windows cause it sux, try Linux!

Heat is an AMD problem.. big time if you're like me and have 5 of em sitting here (sweat, pant what? I'm going deaf from the fan noise )
And I agree about RAM, one can never be too rich or have to much RAM in the puter

enough of my interruption ..

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aaah deus ex machinus

true divine intervention

jkrohn - your thread has been 'touched' - your compile will be fruitful
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Old 09-14-2002, 07:56 PM   #39 (permalink)
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ah, yeah, sorry jkrohn. Your thread proved really popular and started some good discussion. Okay - we're back on topic now.. :-)

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Scott ............ instead of buying a whole new box........ you could just install removable hard drive hot swap trays and just pull a hard drive and install another one to switch operating systems........ and plain forget dual boot stuff

I love my removable hard drives ........... hard drives are cheap and I can play with several systems at once without investing alot of $$$

Here is a link to one of the trays ..........
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...tby=14&order=1

These things work pretty darn good

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