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Old 06-05-2002, 05:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Get all updates for the os,I believe there is an updat to the hibernate feature

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Calm down.

Hibernation and Stand By are the same thing according to MS->>

"Computer Cannot Hibernate or Stand by After You Remove"

You need to check all the possibilities at MS regarding this "problem"
I think that Standby/Hibernate are problems in themselves, most people here have declined to use that feature because of it's problematic nature. you may reconsider and focus on the real issues at hand.

Check the varoious things at MS that can cause this issue.

http://search.microsoft.com/Default....07&i=08 &i=09
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Old 06-05-2002, 06:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Calm down.

Hibernation and Stand By are the same thing according to MS->>

"Computer Cannot Hibernate or Stand by After You Remove"

You need to check all the possibilities at MS regarding this "problem"
I think that Standby/Hibernate are problems in themselves, most people here have declined to use that feature because of it's problematic nature. you may reconsider and focus on the real issues at hand.

Check the varoious things at MS that can cause this issue.

http://search.microsoft.com/Default....07&i=08 &i=09

hmmm.......let me see what I can get....
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Old 06-06-2002, 04:00 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I had that same problem with a computer I just built. It would go into Hibernation, but I couldn't get it to come back on. I tried everything. Finally I said forget it and turned the feature off. This is XP though. I now, never use the feature, because of the problems I always seem to have.
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Old 06-06-2002, 08:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I had related trouble with a Gateway Athlon 600 (Win98SE). Gateway has a fancified keyboard with a "Standby" (or equivalent) key. Using it just caused lockups. I stopped trying.
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Old 06-06-2002, 09:12 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I use HIBERNATE with WIN 2K and STANDBY doesn't work.

When I did a new install when I started using my WD 120 GB 8 MB cache drive I had to go to the control panel and power options where there's a hibernate tab and then enable hibernate.

I use HIBERNATE during the day and rarely is there a problem. It comes back on quickly and I even turn off the power while it's hibernating. I've chosen in the system BIOS to have a power on after shut down to a hard restart. I Shut Down at night as even WIN 2K gets confused after half a dozen or more cycles of hibernating.

I don't remember if there's a similar tab on WIN 98.
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Old 06-07-2002, 02:06 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The first thing you've got to do is take a deep breath, relax and calm down like our friend Richard Cranium has suggested.

Been following your thread "NO RESPONSE IN WIN98 - NEED TO DO HOMEWORK" on the quiet. Quite an interesting problem.

When you put the two threads together "NO RESPONSE IN WIN98 - NEED TO DO HOMEWORK" and "CAN'T HIBERNATE", the picture becomes a little clearer. Waiting in the wings for something more concrete to turn up does pay dividends. "CAN'T HIBERNATE" has narrowed down the cause, or causes, of your problem.

I believe it all boils down to power management, or perhaps power "mismanagement". Fooling around with power management can affect system performance, including the type you're experiencing - slow startup, icons and shortcuts unresponsive to the touch, etc.

You did say that the system is new and you've also reformatted the hard disk, say, like on Sunday, didn't you. All right, let's take it from there. A new system, reformatted as well. Assuming that you've assembled the machine yourself, can we discount the possibility of any loose connections. What about ram? Are all sticks of ram properly seated. Is your video card properly mounted. Let's assume that the installation of components is faultless and your BIOS settings are correct.

That leaves us with the question of power management because HIBERNATE is part of it. HIBERNATE is key. In Windows 98, the HIBERNATE feature is OS-supported but before it can be activated, your BIOS must first support it. Otherwise, no HIBERNATE feature for Windows 98. The BIOS must be ACPI-compliant and must support the HIBERNATE mode.

ACPI functionality is dynamic. It changes; it gets better and better. Functions are constantly being improved upon and added by BIOS and system manufacturers. If functionality such as the HIBERNATE feature is missing and you're experiencing unusual BIOS-related behavior, call up the manufacturer of your system BIOS for the most current BIOS to install.

In your case, check with the motherboard manufacturer, MSI, for the latest BIOS upgrade which supports the latest version of ACPI (I forget the version). If the BIOS upgrade does not support the HIBERNATE mode, you won't get it in Windows 98. While you're at it, get the latest chipset driver upgrade. Flash your BIOS, upgrade your chipset drivers and you should be rid of your problem of slow startup and unresponsive icons and shortcuts.

In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, STANDBY and HIBERNATE are supported and can be activated on the OS level. For Windows 98, it has to be a feature supported by the manufactuer of the PC.

Although STANDBY and HIBERNATE both perform power-saving functions, they are different in behavior.

STANDBY cuts power to peripheral devices when they are not in use, including the monitor and hard drive. Power however is left on for RAM so whatever's in physical memory won't be lost, e.g., any work that you may have done remains before STANDBY sets in.

HIBERNATE saves the contents of RAM to your hard disk when you turn your computer off. When you switch on your computer again, documents and application are open just as you left them before the powering down.

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Old 06-07-2002, 08:46 AM   #18 (permalink)
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WOW, a visit from one of the "Old Wise Ones" yet again !

What an articulate explanation of the differences between Hibernate and Standby.

Now I know why they pay the Old Wise Ones so much more than Quan-Ultimate members )
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The first thing you've got to do is take a deep breath, relax and calm down like our friend Richard Cranium has suggested.

Been following your thread "NO RESPONSE IN WIN98 - NEED TO DO HOMEWORK" on the quiet. Quite an interesting problem.

When you put the two threads together "NO RESPONSE IN WIN98 - NEED TO DO HOMEWORK" and "CAN'T HIBERNATE", the picture becomes a little clearer. Waiting in the wings for something more concrete to turn up does pay dividends. "CAN'T HIBERNATE" has narrowed down the cause, or causes, of your problem.

I believe it all boils down to power management, or perhaps power "mismanagement". Fooling around with power management can affect system performance, including the type you're experiencing - slow startup, icons and shortcuts unresponsive to the touch, etc.

You did say that the system is new and you've also reformatted the hard disk, say, like on Sunday, didn't you. All right, let's take it from there. A new system, reformatted as well. Assuming that you've assembled the machine yourself, can we discount the possibility of any loose connections. What about ram? Are all sticks of ram properly seated. Is your video card properly mounted. Let's assume that the installation of components is faultless and your BIOS settings are correct.

That leaves us with the question of power management because HIBERNATE is part of it. HIBERNATE is key. In Windows 98, the HIBERNATE feature is OS-supported but before it can be activated, your BIOS must first support it. Otherwise, no HIBERNATE feature for Windows 98. The BIOS must be ACPI-compliant and must support the HIBERNATE mode.

ACPI functionality is dynamic. It changes; it gets better and better. Functions are constantly being improved upon and added by BIOS and system manufacturers. If functionality such as the HIBERNATE feature is missing and you're experiencing unusual BIOS-related behavior, call up the manufacturer of your system BIOS for the most current BIOS to install.

In your case, check with the motherboard manufacturer, MSI, for the latest BIOS upgrade which supports the latest version of ACPI (I forget the version). If the BIOS upgrade does not support the HIBERNATE mode, you won't get it in Windows 98. While you're at it, get the latest chipset driver upgrade. Flash your BIOS, upgrade your chipset drivers and you should be rid of your problem of slow startup and unresponsive icons and shortcuts.

In Windows 2000 and Windows XP, STANDBY and HIBERNATE are supported and can be activated on the OS level. For Windows 98, it has to be a feature supported by the manufactuer of the PC.

Although STANDBY and HIBERNATE both perform power-saving functions, they are different in behavior.

STANDBY cuts power to peripheral devices when they are not in use, including the monitor and hard drive. Power however is left on for RAM so whatever's in physical memory won't be lost, e.g., any work that you may have done remains before STANDBY sets in.

HIBERNATE saves the contents of RAM to your hard disk when you turn your computer off. When you switch on your computer again, documents and application are open just as you left them before the powering down.

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hey.......thanks man.......me and my dad are going to figure out what's going on tonight........i think or i "hope" that I have fixed my problems for the shortcuts, because i used norton utilities to check my computer, and it said there was a problem with activeX, so I corrected it, and it worked, then it didn't work, and now it works again.......i am going to update my chipset drivers.....i already tried flashing the new bios on.......do u think the power supply has anything to do with it? if i can't solve these problems, do u think i should upgrade to windows xp? or will upgrading make it even worse? do i need to reinstall windows to see if my hibernate comes up? i am sorry for seeming so paranoid.........
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okay.......i got a new idea.......i don't even need hibernation.....i just want s3(str).........i tried it, and it worked, but i can't get it to boot again.......what do i press for it to boot again? the power button? and that problem with the links is still present......

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