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Old 04-14-2002, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has computing as we know it hit a brickwall???

Recently
Intel puts out p4 2.4 and AMD XP2200+
nVidia releases gf4---too fast to utilize most apps
Ram increase from ddr 333 to ddr 400
M/b's released w/ddr400 capabilities

Do we need more then just a new design?

AMD Hammer range and hypertransport
Blue Ray
3D ram
Serial ata
Intels complete package cpu
Intels Yamahill and 64 bit processor

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Old 04-15-2002, 10:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You have a good point. I think that software is behind hardware. We need some new software written that can fully utilize your top of the line hardware. I think I'd be happier with software that can fully utilize my hardware than with something that I can still run on a p450.
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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What about gaming? Is it really behind? I already know of at least 1 game that I want to play that recommends at least a 1.8 Ghz processor. All I have is a 1.0 Ghz machine.
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What game is that???
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:43 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Earth 2160. Knightshift uses the same engine. Specs are here:
http://www.knightshift.com/index2.htm
Knightshift isn't really my type of game, but E2160 will be.
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Old 04-15-2002, 10:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You have to take into account that the majority of people do not have the latest and greatest.

The game manufacturers have to remember that the majority of the market may not be using Geforce 4's let alone 3's and alot of people, I'd guess to say more than 50%, still have sub-1gig processors in their computers.

What really needs to happen is a boom in the PC market. The boom would see many people replacing their old machines with new and faster ones. Until then, the software manufacturers are stuck waiting for the technology of the majority to catch up.
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Think of one think: storage!

Storage is way behind, as is the PCI bus. The only reason technology seems to be stalling is that storage and interface are slow.

Think of it as fast a CPU is, what good is it if it cannot be fed the data fast enough. All current systems are bound to the storage speed. As long as we rely on mechanical devices this will be it.


As for what else wer have yet to do with out PC's, well, a voice operated PC needs a lot (a lot) of processing power. 3D OS's? If you think about it, if you load all eyecandy features of your OS it still slows down (even with 1G RAM and 2GHz CPUs). But the main reason for that is that software is poorly optimised (for compatibility reasons). Isn't Windows running on a Pentium133? Slow but runs. So all these very advanced features your P4 or Athlon XP are useless. The software treats it as a fast Pentium, nothing more. All MS binaries are optimised for Pentium.

There is plenty to come both software/hardware -wise. But things will move at the pace of average joe.

Given the fact that all CPU's spend 99% of their time idle (please no DC arguments here ) the first part of the future will be GRID. This will revolutionise the idea of a PC, of Internet and ITas we know it.

Give that GRID (as internet was) is developed by universities were funds are limited, it is scheduled for 2010 to launch. But this will only be for universities. Commercial/public use will follow but unfortunatelly if things go out for hand and end up to profit organisations we are all in for good milking. Anyhow GRID is what we are expecting and it will be the next thing.

CPU's will also be faster, PCI reduntant, storage solid state and monitors holographers. But these are not that important.
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Strange, some years ago, software programmers were limited by hardware...
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This is a really good topic. I feel about my 1GHz that i have had for over a year that it will last forever if we are still oging at this pace in making new things.
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Old 04-15-2002, 12:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I think that storage needs are being taken care of as far as speed, it just happens to be extremely costly for the regular end user. I would really like an U160 drive at 15k rpms, I just can't afford it. If you consider other enterprise storage, fibre channel technology is also expensive.
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