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Old 04-28-2004, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Kids Head Scratcher: Partitions, Drive Letters

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I had two partitions on one hard drive. There were hidden remnants of my old Windows 98 on C: drive which was a primary FAT32 drive and also the active drive. On the other partition (D I had Windows XP Pro installed; D: was a logical drive on an extended partition. This was not the active partition and when the computer was booted I was given a choice of OS, obviously I could not use Windows 98 as there were only fragments left. So to claw back the 2GB taken up by the fairly useless C: drive I used Partition Magic 7.0 to delete C: partition, it warned me that this was the active partition but said I could set a new active partition afterwards so I continued. After deleting C: successfully I was told that I could not set D: active. I rebooted and was faced with something like "No OS found" or similar. I worked on this for hours and finally decided to make a new partition in the recently unallocated space I had acquired from removing C: on this I installed another Windows XP Pro. I rebooted and entered the new Windows. This new windows was on C: and I could see my old Windows XP Pro on D:. I wanted to switch over to the old Windows XP which had all my settings. Having learnt that you could only boot from primary partitions I converted D: from logical to primary and set D: active. I then deleted C: and its Windows. This all seemed fine however it would not load so I tried to use a homemade XP floppy boot disk (NTLDR, NTDETECT and a BOOT.INI that I wrote). On booting it said "Invalid BOOT.INI file. Loading C:WINDOWS". But I thought I only had D:WINDOWS?? Anyway this actually started Windows XP but on checking there was no C: to be seen only D: (I even got messages to tell me "Windows could not find C:....". So I tried to change D: letter to C: but this would not work (because on rebooting, which it has to do, Partition Magic had some kind of parameter error). However I could still log on to Windows using my disk. I then went to PQBoot (application attached to Partition Magic) and selected the right partition to boot from. Now when my computer boots I get the message "NTLDR is missing". If I put my floppy disk in thenit recognises the NTLDR on that and continues to load until I get the following message;
"Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll . Please reinstall a copy of the above file."
I have loaded the Recovery Console with the XP CD and performed a repair but this made no difference. I have also tried using the command prompt to copy hal.dll from the cd but to no avail. I have corrected the bootcfg many times (using bootcfg /rebuild). One f the main problems (especially when using the command prompt) is that the recovery console believes that my Windows installation is on C: but I know that when I was last in Windows it was definitely on D:. So I think I need tosort out the assigning of drive letters and then try again to copy files at the command prompt. Some exact instructions on what I should type at the command prompt would be useful. Hope you can help and that you have not fallen asleep reading this novel of a question.

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Old 04-28-2004, 11:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, I didn't "quite" fall asleep, but close! LOL.

I thought I might be of some help, but after reading thru your post.. I can see that you have already tried everything I could have come up with...and more. I have Partition Magic..but do not use it very much, I still like the old way by using fdisk.

So...all I can do is welcome you to TECHimo!
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ummm...why not just format your hd and do a clean install of windows?
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format isn't really an option for me. too many important documents. i'mworkin on it at the mo, might be gettin somewhere - fingers crossed.
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oh well my latest attempt didnt work. hope somebody's got some answers out there
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How big is the drive in question? You could try making the C: partition bigger (big enough for WinXP, + apps) and then re-install the OS there. You'd have to re-install all your apps that are currently on the D: partition... I know, bit of a hassle but much less of a hassle than potentially losing all your important data.

I went through a similar thing of shuffling drives, partitions and data when I installed two bigger hard drives. In the process I came to believe that Windows pretty much doesn't like anything other than C: for the boot partition... it'll work, but it can be problematic.
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Reinstall XP on a new C: partition as you did before. Then just put all important files on some removable media (CD, DVD, etc.) or extra hard drive. If you really want to save your settings too, then use the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard. With that you can manually choose which folder and settings (on either partition) to save and manually choose a save location (removable media).

Once you have everything backed up, divide the hard drive into desired amount of partitions, format, and do a nice, clean, fresh install of XP. Once that is installed, just move the files over, or just run the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard if you used that previously.

Hope that works for you and good luck.

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cheers guys i'll give both of those a go. not exactly the quick fix i had in mind but doesnt look like i got any other options
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