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Old 04-16-2004, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Kids Buy now or wait a month or two?

Hey everyone!

Here's the deal. I got an itch that I just have to scratch... I recently saw that the Radeon 9800 can support HDTV output, and along with the "All in Wonder" card I can do the video editing I have been wanting to do, speed up my gaming (from a Nvidia Ti4200) and play Far Cry on my 65" Mitsubishi Hi-Def. All good reasons to upgrade, right?

So imagine my delight when I saw the good deals on NewEgg! A new Radeon 9800 Pro - All in Wonder for about $335. SWEET! And then when I checked here and saw that the NEW NVidia 6800 is coming out... and now I'm stuck.

I am a LOOOOONG time NVidia fan, but I'm willing to be a "convert" to a Radeon if it does what I think it will. So here are my questions:

I know that the new NVidia card will rock AND make everyone drop their prices on existing cards. What do you think the price drop/savings will be on the Radeons when the NVidia 6800 hits the streets? Will it be substantial or minor? How long until the new Radeons come out? Does anyone out there know if the NVidia will support HDTV outputs?

Thanks in advance for any good advice/suggestions.

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Old 04-16-2004, 12:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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im in the same boat as you(not looking at the AIW cards), from what i heard the new ati cards will be coming out at the end of the month.

i can see the 9800 pro coming down in price but the AIW usually stay up there in price

just looking at the 9600 AIW its still $261!

i would wait just to see what ATI will be releasing
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does your tv have a dvi input...if it dosent you will be stuck using svideo which has poor quality on any tv

a week or so ago i heard the radeon x800s were coming out the 26th but then today i heard they would come out the 4th and be retail that day and the x800 xt would be availible the 14th

the benchmarks i have seen the 6800U whoops the 9800 XT so i think it would be worth waiting a couple weeks but before you buy i would look at some benches on the x800 vs the 6800

and i dont think aiw cards will be availible when they first come out so you might want to think of just a seperate AIW pci card even if you go with a 9800 pro it only has 1 dvi plug so you will need to be switching you monitor and tv alot
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Old 04-18-2004, 04:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input, folks!

Headband, my HDTV has component, composite, SVideo and antenna inputs. If you look on the ATI website, they show their AIW cards as having DVI, VGA, Svideo and component outputs. Component is not the same as SVideo. Svideo is marginally better than a composite output, but does not compare to component output. (They are easily confused.)

SVideo and composite are at the 480i level, whereas component can pull 1080i/720p all day long. I can see the difference between my 480i Svideo connection and my 480i composite output on my DVD player, but it a HUGE difference when I switch between my 480i component output to 1080i component output on my HDTV receiver. The difference is night/day.

So back to the ATI AIW 9800. It has component output capable of 1080i (and higher, but my TV won't support it) and would be a huge increase over my 4200Ti... will the ATI cards see a price drop in the next month or so? (Best educated guesses, please.) Will the 6800 support HDTV? (No doubt that the 6800 whupped some SERIOUS butt in the benchmarks!) Thanks again for the input!

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does your tv have a dvi input...if it dosent you will be stuck using svideo which has poor quality on any tv

a week or so ago i heard the radeon x800s were coming out the 26th but then today i heard they would come out the 4th and be retail that day and the x800 xt would be availible the 14th

the benchmarks i have seen the 6800U whoops the 9800 XT so i think it would be worth waiting a couple weeks but before you buy i would look at some benches on the x800 vs the 6800

and i dont think aiw cards will be availible when they first come out so you might want to think of just a seperate AIW pci card even if you go with a 9800 pro it only has 1 dvi plug so you will need to be switching you monitor and tv alot
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