Intel copies 64-bit from AMD

[jmichna]

AMD AND INTEL 64-BIT CHIPS ALMOST IDENTICAL
Intel claims its new 64-bit x86-architecture computer chips have nearly
100 percent compatibility with software written for AMD's 64-bit chip
architecture. In a detailed report, market-research firm In-Stat/MDR found
little to contradict this claim, saying that Intel and AMD's chips are
almost identical. In fact, the report claims, Intel appears to have
reverse-engineered its chip according to the specs of AMD's chip, marking
a microprocessing milestone of sorts. "This is the first time AMD has
truly steered the direction of [Intel's] microprocessor architecture,"
says In-Stat senior editor Tom Halfhill. A summary of In-Stat's report can
be found at
http://www.mdronline.com

Intel’s reverse-engineering of AMD64 marks a major turning point in the historical relationship between the companies. Although AMD has in the past introduced some innovations to the x86 architecture—the 3DNow multimedia extensions being a prime example—this is the first time AMD has truly steered the direction of the world’s most important microprocessor architecture, which Intel invented in 1978 and has closely guarded for 26 years.

[Messiah89]

AMD 4 Life!

[peterwilkes]

Is reverse engineering allowed on a presuamably patented chip?

[willy_ph]

I know it's illegal to reverse engineer software, so I would bet and say that it's also illegal to reverse engineer hardware as well.

Maybe AMD has a case for the courts.

[stallionre]

INTEL FOR LIFE!!! They last longer and run cooler. Also the 3.4Ghz chip is faster than the best AMD chip that is on the market today. I have mine OC at 3.8Ghz, now bet that AMD, you cant touch this!!!
INTEL also has a longer life span and faster switching chip sets. They are more user friendly with no problems to all the software, hardware and updates that are out on the market as of today.
HOPE THIS HELPS!!

[DPA]

As far as my memory serves me, AMD currently owes a royalty to Intel for every CPU they sell. I believe that they are using a patented architecture somewhere within the chips, but I am not certain if this applies to the 64 bit CPUs or not.

It is not illegal for Intel to follow in AMD's footsteps--if anything, Intel will just have to pay AMD a very small sum per CPU.

I haven't heard too much about this other than "it's fact and it's happening."

They are more user friendly with no problems to all the software, hardware and updates that are out on the market as of today.

sorry, but that's crap. AMD doesn't release an x86 CPU that only works with a percentage of software and hardware out there. There are very very very few updates specifically made for the K7 architechture, and those that are are classified as "optimizations." That's why AMD pays out to Intel for those parts that they need for 100% compatibility.

As far as "user friendly," I can't exactly say what's friendly about either CPU. You open the ZIF slot, you close it, and you put on a heatsink. If anything, the Intel Heatsinks are more difficult to fasten, those annoying plastic clamps always seem to reverse engineer their own structure on me... but that's another story altogether.

[jmichna]

Originally posted by stallionre
INTEL FOR LIFE!!! They last longer and run cooler. Also the 3.4Ghz chip is faster than the best AMD chip that is on the market today. I have mine OC at 3.8Ghz, now bet that AMD, you cant touch this!!!
INTEL also has a longer life span and faster switching chip sets. They are more user friendly with no problems to all the software, hardware and updates that are out on the market as of today.
HOPE THIS HELPS!!

How does your post pertain to the subject of this thread?

[The Real Bingo]

Everyone saw this coming from Intel. I just didnt think it would be a replica of AMD. Shame on Intel.

[willy_ph]

I remember the days when AMD was claiming 100% compatibility with Intel chips. Oh, how the times have changed.

[washe]

Originally posted by DPA

As far as "user friendly," I can't exactly say what's friendly about either CPU. You open the ZIF slot, you close it, and you put on a heatsink. If anything, the Intel Heatsinks are more difficult to fasten, those annoying plastic clamps always seem to reverse engineer their own structure on me... but that's another story altogether.

the most unfrienly part of every cpu I have installed its installing the heatsinks..... and applies to both intel and amd......