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Old 03-29-2004, 07:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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help! PCI memory problem

I have a PCI graphics card which is not working because it supposedly can't find any memory, but I have no idea what is causing the problem. But I really need it fixed because it makes everything very laggy.

Here is a screen grab to hopefully give more info:

http://www.geocities.com/fuenut/winscreen1.html


cpu: athlon xp 2500
memory: 512Mb pc3200
motherboard: dfi nf2 infinity
hdd: maxtor plus 9 sata, 80Gb
cdrw: sony crx300
graphics card: S3 trio 64
os: windows xp
psu: 400W


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Old 03-29-2004, 07:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum!

Tell us about the rest of the system...what operating system? What motherboard/ram etc etc.

have you tried it in another system?

is it giving you a certain error message??

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Old 03-29-2004, 07:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes more info is required. BTW, your bandwidth is exceeded, hence we cannot see the pic.

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Old 03-29-2004, 08:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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OK uploaded the screenshot to somewhere else: http://www.geocities.com/fuenut/winscreen1.html

Also added system info to my signature.

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cpu: athlon xp 2500
memory: 512Mb pc3200
motherboard: dfi nf2 infinity
hdd: maxtor plus 9 sata, 80Gb
cdrw: sony crx300
graphics card: S3 trio 64
os: windows xp
psu: 400W

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Old 03-29-2004, 09:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Those very old S3 graphics cards had a bit of a PCI bug that prevents them from running properly in newer systems. I guess you'll have to part with it.
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Old 03-29-2004, 09:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I auggest you get an AGP card. they are cheap as can be and have better features. I suggest, for what you are trying to do, use a GeForce4 Ti Series card. Very nice card.
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First of all...WELCOME TO TECHIMO! (Sorry JP, just jad to throw mine in too)

Well...before you go out and spend a whole bunch of money on a new video card...here's a couple things you might try

The general idea of your error message is that the system does not have a free IRQ and I/O address to give to the device. This is a common problem with PCI devices as many slots are assigned only 1~2 IRQs to work with.

--First thing to try: Load a different driver for the card than what you currently have. If you are loading the driver from a disc, or if you are just letting XP load its driver, try a newer one from the internet. It may offer better compatibility with the XP resourcing system.

--Second thing to try: Put the card in another slot and/or pull some other cards to see if you can get it to run properly with some more resources available.

Along with this, see if you notice any overlap between the video card and other devices with respect to IRQ and I/O memory. To do this, go to the device manager (which I assume you can do since it was on your screenshot ) and under the View menu, change to "Resources by Type". From here you can view all the devices in the system and see if the video card overlaps another devices IRQ and/or I/O address.

--Third thing to try: Disable devices that share the same IRQ and/or memory address that the video card is trying to use. It's okay for devices to share IRQs, but sometimes the other device will get greedy and not let anything in (USB controllers do this a lot!).

Please feel free to request clarification or post any other questions here!! Hope this helps!

~edit: Here and Here are sites that have up to date drivers for your card (you'll have to know the chip number which you can read right off of the cards graphics chip)...Cheers!
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It's not an IRQ problem. Even with only one IRQ available for the entire set of PCI and AGP devices, it'd be OK.

The background is that the S3 Trio series chips consume twice as much memory space as their PCI register set declares they need. Hence, as soon as such a chip resides on a bridged PCI bus, the bus bridge will not have enough resources to enable the chip. This problem predates the loading of the device driver, and as such is not cured by using a different driver.
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Alright I tried every PCI slot, made no difference.
Also downloaded a few drivers which were supposed to be XP compatible, my computer did not agree. The drivers I have though (which XP loaded automatically) seem to be pretty accurate in the type of card they are reporting though.

If the problem is caused by excessive memory consumption (like Peter M says) how do I resolve it?
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http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=56369 they were searching for drivers in this thread but never found any.

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maybe hafta bite the bullet and get a new card?

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