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Old 03-26-2004, 04:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about Harddrives and CD drives

Hi, well I have not much experience in the computer fields, and I was wondering what CD-Rom drives and Hard drives add to in a computers performance for running stress-heavy applications like games or graphic design programs. I'm looking to upgrade my CD-ROM and Harddrive, but I dont know what specs to look into in those pieces of hardware, such as the 52X 54X, 56X things, and Mb Buffer (is the more megabytes the better)? Also, if I wanted to replace my hard drive, how could i transfer my data? Would it hurt my computer to have one slow old hard drive and a new nice one? Thanks for your time, if your only able to address some of my questions thats fine, any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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A 7200 rpm HDD with 8 MB buffer will speed up your system.

CDRW has no effect on the speed of the system

Slaving the old HDD will only have an effect ( if any ) when it is accessed.

Transferring data can be achieved by either using the HDD utility to transfer the entire drive or if that isn't necessary when you slave it you will be able to tranfer data from old to new.

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Cd-Rom drives obviously are faster=better. I dont think you can find new slow cd roms so that shouldnt be a problem. of course if you want a cd burner, dvd rom, or dvd burner, you have to let us know. a faster cd rom could help when applications are accessing the cd, but beyond that they wont add much.

hard drives: bigger Mb Buffer=better. 2mb and 8mb are the standards now i beleive. assuming you have an open IDE connector (you have 4 available for both hard drives and cd drives) you can have both the old and the new hard drive in your computer at the same time. appearently having your operating system (i am guessing yours is Windows) on an 8mb buffer hard drive will help load times but it is not necessary.

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Re: Question about Harddrives and CD drives

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Hi, well I have not much experience in the computer fields, and I was wondering what CD-Rom drives and Hard drives add to in a computers performance for running stress-heavy applications like games or graphic design programs. I'm looking to upgrade my CD-ROM and Harddrive, but I dont know what specs to look into in those pieces of hardware, such as the 52X 54X, 56X things, and Mb Buffer (is the more megabytes the better)? Also, if I wanted to replace my hard drive, how could i transfer my data? Would it hurt my computer to have one slow old hard drive and a new nice one? Thanks for your time, if your only able to address some of my questions thats fine, any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
1) For CD roms, the higher the speed (X number) the better. Don't let the numbers on a DVD drive fool you, 1X speeds for a DVD drive is worth about 4X CD speeds. For Burners, the speeds will come in 3. Like 24/10/40. The first number is the maximum burning rate for CD-Rs. The second is the maximum burning rate for CD-RWs. The third is the read speed of the CD Drive (applies to all CDs).

2) Transfering data from an old hard drive can usually be done with software included with the new Drive (I know Seatgate does this, I think WD and Maxtor can too). Note that transfering the files will take quite a while.

3) You can have an old and new drive. The only requirement (not even really a requirememnt) is that the new drive has to be the master and the old one the slave. You can put it any way you want really (like if the OS is on the old drive), the reason I say that is some really old drives (pre-20GB) and some 20s and 40s even have slower controllers which can slow the new drive down.

As for HDD specs, here's what they mean:

ATA/ATAPI/IDE: Means it runs on the IDE bus. Most desktop PCs use this for hard drives to connect to. You may see ATA and then a number (like 66, 100, 133). That's the transfer rate of the drive. The higher the better, although it will only go the rate supported by the motherboard or controller (check the motherboard manual for information on that). You can use an ATA-133 controller on an ATA-66 motherboard, but the hard drive will only transfer at 66mb/s, not 133mb/s. Not really a big deal anyway, most HDDs never get beyond 66mb/s when transfering data.

SCSI: The Audobaun of data buses. Used in Macs mostly, and you can use them in your PC if you get a SCSI controller card. SCSI is (arguably) easier to set up, since there is no Master/Slave to worry about, but it does require that you set up the controller card. If your OS is installed on a SCSI card, that can get a bit interesting fast. SCSI issuperior in every way to IDE, except in price. SCSI drives are more expensive than their IDE counterparts. They also have smaller storgae spaces (no 200GB monsters here). But, at 15,000 rpms you wouldn't be complaining.

SATA: Serial ATA. A new standard for hard drives, combining the speed and ease of SCSI with the value of IDE. If you don't have a computer that comes with it automatically built in, then you'll need a controller card. There is little support for this now, but it is growing.

Rpms: Generally 5400, 7200, or 10000 rpms for IDE drives. The higher the faster, but also the hotter and lounder. I'm happy with 7200 drives, but you might find 10000 drives more to your liking. 10000 drives are relatively new, and more expensive. SCSI drives range from 10000 to 15000 rpms, which is loud but very fast.

Capacity: This is what you get a hard drive for. IDEs range from 40 GB to 200 GB nopwadays. SCSIs range from 20 to 120 GB (more than 120, I don not know about. It would be very expensive though).
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ok, thanks everyone for the tips, could you based on my system info, give a good recomendation for a new harddrive?

I have an Asus A7n8X Deluxe Mobo, with an amd 2500+.
I currently have a Maxtor, 2mb buffer, 40gb storage space HDD.
I have (2) 256mb PC2700 and a pc2700 512mb (which i need to upgrade also, any suggestions lol?)

Anyway I'm looking for a harddrive about 60gb, that doesnt cost 200 dollars, but can you guys point me in the right direction for which brand name to look for? Examples of the best drives out there would be helpful in comparison. Thanks so much again.
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Anything by Western Digital, Maxtor, or Seagate will be good. I'd look for which ones had the lowest price. Most folks swear by WD, but I have had good experiences with all 3.

Don't get a Fujitsu or IBM drive. Hitachi drives are the same as IBM drives, and are probably okay since the kinks are probably worked out by now (don't quote me on that tho, I ahve no idea if they actually are or not).
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Don't know where you live but Staples has a Maxtor 120 GB for $89.94 after savings and MIR this week.

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