Please disable caching.

[sixf00t4]

unless you do see a great improvement on the load of the server Scott, or anyone else sees any benefits...at all.

it started out as just some small things here and there (will list later)

but now i have had entire posts disappear. and edits on posts disappear. and posts are the very essense of this place, we can't afford to lose a single one...ok, maybe a few

i really think that alone should be reason enough to get rid of the caching. but if not, here are some other things that have been noticed.


"quick reply" box coming in different sizes
"quick reply" box not showing up at all
avatars not showing up
forum time off
"stealth" users are listed as online with an asterick next to their name
non-mods can see the mods forum listed
forum times are off
the solution to the db problem with adding a user to your ignore list doesnt work all the time now if you get a cached page of someone who didnt have anyone in their ignore list.


probably some others too, but i think the caching is doing more harm then good, and honestly, the posts and the edits i think should be enough

Actually, it usually just takes a minute or two for the caching system to catch up. Your edit in the previous post did, in fact, show up. I've had the same thing happen to me a few times now (more now that I've had to mod).

[sixf00t4]

hmmm, so it did. i know that two posts i submitted disappeared though, and that they havent returned...yet. M_six had an edit disappear on him, i wonder if it came back.

[jkrohn]

Honestly, caching is really pick your posion.

Due to the dynamic nature of pretty much every page, issues like this are going to exist. What this leaves us is which would you rather have?
1) The timeouts and a forum that is inaccesible at times
or
2) The issues that caching braings

I distinctly remember MANY threads complaing of the speed and timeouts a short time ago. The caching seems to have fixed these beautifully, but introduced problems of its own.

Do I think we should do away with caching? No, not at all. Do I think that it needs some work? Of course it does.

One thing that I think should be looked into, barring possibility of course, is some sort of link to force a refresh. Perhaps this could be limited in use, or something to that effect, but this would be helpful in the realm of things like disapprearing posts.

Another fix I would like to mention would be to make the quick reply box permanent. Then when you try to submit a reply, it check to see if you are logged in. If you are not, it tells you that you have to log in, if you were logged in you post. I think that this would solve the problem of the disappearing quick reply box.

Just my thoughts.
Jkrohn

[sixf00t4]

the timeouts and SQL database errors still occur here. i agree, not as often as they did. but certainly enough where you can't call the caching a good solution to it.

[jkrohn]

While I don't get them anymore, I will assume that they still occur. Either way it all depends on two things
1) How you define a good solution
2) And at what costs you want to apply this solution

Jkrohn

I'd say the "solution at hand" is now something that needs to be fixed.

[Mickwish]

There was mention of a possible upgrade to a later version of vBulletin that has built in cache management. It all depends on how much it will take to upgrade (lots of customisation here).

Access speeds have been much improved since the cache addition. Is it better the devil you know than the devil you don't, or what? So we should go back to poor access times? That could be detrimental to the site, IMO.

Not sure what the answer is, but we need to keep reporting problems so they can be looked at for fixes.

IMO, anyway.

Cheers
Mick

[SpookyEddy]

Please for the love of all things good disable it or fix it. Just a few of the issues its causing me, resulting in an almost unusable forum.

1) Constant random logouts.
2) Wildly fluctuating times which combined with no black dots make it almost impossible to work out where the threads I am reading are.
3) Frequent pop-ups telling me I have PM's when I do not.
4) Everyones post count changes depending on what thread I read (no big deal).
5) Posts vanish until the cache refreshes, I can't read posts I know I just made for random periods.

It just sucks, please fix it or burn it.

Regards

ed

[Gomer]

In addition to spooky's list (and I deal with all of those as well):

1. Avatars on, avatars off. I want them off. I loath them. A few people use them as an avenue for annoying people and that is too many. They now turn on and off as they please.

2. The number of pages in a thread are no longer correct when I view them on the forum listing. It says there is 2 pages, I click the 2 link and lo and behold there is a third or fourth page.

3. Since I don't stay in, the "search for most recent posts" link is gone 75% of the time. Without that feature and no black dots it is a royal pain to keep track of threads I have posted in.

WTF is going on here anymore, it has devolved from a glitch to business as usual. Becoming harder to tolerate.