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Old 02-13-2004, 11:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is online voting racially discriminatory?

The American Prospect examines the issue.

The author leaves the technical issues aside (except for an irresponsible jab at voting machine manufacturers) and considers the impact of the "digital divide" on internet voting, which was used by Michigan in their recent caucus.

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Old 02-13-2004, 11:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I dont believe in using any type of electronic voting. Any electronic device can be hacked.
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"The vendors who are in business from profiting off the sale of voting systems do not have a vested interest in being forthcoming about security glitches."

If this is what you refer to as irresponsible I sugest you read the Diebold memos, readily available on the web, then you might change your mind. I have read them and remember statements like "fake the test results" in refrence to the required certification tests. Also the password to the machines is 10101010 something most election supervisors do not have a clue how to reset.

They run on that wonderfully secure operating system windows C E

Don't leave out the man in the middle hack attack to change the vote.

When the head of a voting machine company guarantees the results of an election if you contribute to him I just will not trust anything he has any contact with.
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Old 02-13-2004, 11:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I like the idea of internet voting.

buttt Big Buttttttt

I do not think that it can be done securely or at least I would need some serious assurances that it was not being hacked.

As far as electronic voting. I am not sure you could say that it could be hacked.

I am sure any one could go in to a building and rewrite the code of a few boxes but generally speaking I think it is as secure as any other method from levers to ballots.

Ballot stuffing occurred in the past, dead people flipped levers. there is no 100 % method which the democrats could not exploit, having the majority of blue collar criminals in their constituency.
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Old 02-13-2004, 11:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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When the head of a voting machine company guarantees the results of an election if you contribute to him I just will not trust anything he has any contact with.
Well, two things come to mind. First, no local voting board should buy anything that hasn't been through proper qualification and audit. In fact, the qualification and audit business is booming because of this (and not just for voting machines).

Second, you can say this about ANY equipment sold by anybody. All current voting machines, punch card systems, lever-type machines, butterfly ballots are sold by someone. So what are you going to do? Stop the world because we can't trust anyone who's selling something. I think that's a red herring.
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Old 02-13-2004, 12:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You could use hand written ballots.

Oh yea than who ever reads them can of course cheat.
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Old 02-13-2004, 12:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah I can see the pencil companies guarantee the results now.
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Old 02-13-2004, 01:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yes, hand-written ballots worked for the first 150 years of our nation's history. Of course, so did poll taxes.
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Old 02-13-2004, 01:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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every method has its flaws. There is no perfect voting method.

One good method though might include a national ID card for proving valid identity come election time.
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Old 02-13-2004, 01:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Oh, that'll go over big with the ACLU folks. Talk about discriminatory.
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