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Old 02-09-2004, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Outdoors Cooper gets to live

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...er_execution_9

I seriously cannot believe this....I know the guy whose brother was one of those murdered...and I seriously cannot believe that those POS Judges at 9th Circuit Court would do such a thing...

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Old 02-09-2004, 06:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sonofa... unbelievable that that monster gets a reprieve. What do you expect from the 9th Circuit, of course.
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Old 02-09-2004, 06:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Arnold wanted him terminated---no reprieve granted---a higher court stopped it---he will get his day---it wont be long...
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Old 02-09-2004, 06:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It's all up to the supreme court for now. It turns out from the 3 judge panel that heard this appeal only 1 of the judges (and 85-y/o semi retired judge) voted to stop the execution
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Shame, now I will have to hear about it on the news until he gets the needle.

I was under the assumption since people want him to suffer, wouldn't you rather him spend the rest of his life on death row? Taking a painless needle in the arm would seem like a better way out? Well, that's what I would prefer.
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Old 02-09-2004, 09:39 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My reason is not even to make him suffer, but to make sure he will never have a chance to hurt anyone else.
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Old 02-09-2004, 09:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, I guess the needle in the arm would do that.

Did he have any shots of parole, anyway? (Haven't followed the case that closely).
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Old 02-09-2004, 10:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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no, but he has escaped from prison once, or something like that and supposedly raped a woman.
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Old 02-10-2004, 08:27 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm not familiar with the case but what if he is not guilty. From what I have read, this was very heinous crime and IMHO the perpetrator(s) deserve the death penalty. But, the death penalty should only be handed out when absolute proof is presented. Any combination of eyewitness, fingerprints, blood trail, motive and confession would have to be provided/proven and not be suspect to doubt at all. DNA, which is becoming an absolute science, may prove a link between a suspect and the crime but does not prove or disprove that the suspect committed the crime.

Some John has sex with a prostitute, while engaging in the act the condom breaks and the John leaves a sample of DNA. Two hours later the prostitute gets murdered and the only evidence the police have is the John’s DNA. Police are able to place the John with the prostitute and subsequently fabricate a motive. John goes to jail or worse, gets the death penalty and is put to death.

Yes, I know, that scenario has some major leaps in it but remember the criminal judicial system can charge try and convict YOU of a crime on mere circumstantial evidence, motive and opportunity, that’s it. That scares the crap out of me.

Now don’t get me wrong, this post is not intended to disrespect our law enforcement community but they are under a lot of pressure to do their jobs. That pressure at times may cause them to focus on the most opportunistic individual at hand instead of something/someone more intricate. I have the utmost respect for the police and law enforcement but they are human and in this day and age, not above suspect.

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Old 02-10-2004, 08:45 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I vote for the torture of him if guilty. Make it a pay per view event.

9th circuit again ehh.

Was this all a circumstantial and DNA case? or Did the boy who survived identify this scum bag as well?
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